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@[email protected] 👍🏽 For some reason, after the lockdowns, it was when things started to change. There was Elon/Twitter exodus. Then the Reddit exodus. These two events made a huge impact than all the efforts combined prior to it.

But it's still hard to pinpoint what changed. I mean, media coverage was, I think similar as in the first 10 years, it was always about "Twitter alternative" from mass media. I guess what Elon and Reddit did are the trigger point and not the media coverage of a "Twitter/Reddit alternative"?

@[email protected] True. It's why I'm in favour with Elon doing all he can to "improve" Twitter. 😅😅😅😝😝 He's driving growth elsewhere!

@[email protected] Yep! And their content policies are not crazy and their moderators are not trigger happy like YouTube's. 😅

Sad day indeed.

@[email protected] Probably funds, at least it's the usual reason.

Then again, they survived that long side-by-side with a behemoth that is YouTube, it is indeed curious why they're shutting down now.

@[email protected] It's hard to know. Only way is to compare what each network had prior to the migration. In the case of the Fediverse, based on the public tracking sites. While for The ATmosphere, based on official announcements.

@[email protected] Wow. That's including the books they archived? Or, just the websites?

O_O I didn't hear about the user data issue.

Hmm… I wonder how long it has been going on. It took a couple of weeks before I got a reply from them that an admin unintentionally deleted my account, now that you mentioned it, my account probably got squeezed between spam accounts or something. (I was just advised to create a new account, and sadly only lists can be restored. T_T )

@[email protected] Yep, it's challenging and sad. Even Wikipedia use it as a resource and backup of sources.

And there are also those using it to archive copyright infringement, or as a record of a work's license at the time (specially since some loves to change the license when they originally released it in Creative Commons or the Public Domain).

It's crazy though that there was no service as close to the features archive.org has. The only one I'm aware of available publicly is archive.ph / archive.md but they don't offer the archiving of links found, and it's pretty much very static only (TiddlyWiki sites don't work correctly).

T_T

@psycho_[email protected] Haha, but is it, really?

I think it only appears that way because of the massive influx of newbies who are trying to control an (open) web standard; not because it's 16 years already. ^_^

@[email protected] Yep! That's correct! The father of the Fediverse was Evan Prodromou. He sent the first message in 2008. Later, #identiverse was coined before it eventually became known as the #Fediverse.

@[email protected] Yes. The Fediverse started in 2008. ^_^

You can check the page where I've collected it, with links to each.

https://codeberg.org/ddfon/federated-sns

^_^

@[email protected] Ahh, yeah, on Lemmy it is the reversed, you get far too much content from the highly active groups, drowing everything else.

On the microblogging side, that's the thing, the "Local" / "For You" feed was just meant to see what's going on. On platforms without an algorithm, it shows everything. But on platforms like Threads, it controls it (but still, if there is barely any data the algorithm can work on, it's as good as not having any algorithm). So in the end, it goes back to being an end-user effort (or issue) why they see what they don't want to see, and don't find what they want to consume.

For platforms with an algorithm, they have to help the algorithm by providing it data. They need to like, follow, comment, on content they like to see more, instead of randomly interacting. If they don't change their method, the data will be built upon their random liking/commenting, and then complain about it.

For platforms without an algorithm, if they kept on following accounts that talks about tech, of course most of what they'll see are tech. Hence the complaints about "the Fediverse is for developers only" or "the Fediverse is all about politics".

Some claim the Fediverse lack moderation tools, yet, people complain about the same things over in The ATmosphere network. How they kept seeing politics or tech mumbo jumbo.

So, at the end of the day, it's an end-user effort/issue. The platform developers can only provide so much assistance and tools, but if the end-user doesn't grow their "observable network" properly, then it won't work for them regardless which platform they use.

The "Local"/"For You" feed is just for finding new content, for expanding our network. And yes, if some groups or topics are filling this feed, the server admins should have tools to throttle certain groups or topics, so as not to defeat it's purpose as a discovery tool. Otherwise, what you shared will indeed happen. (And I guess this is where an algorithm works best, like how it is in Threads (if there is enough data of course).)

@[email protected] Yep! I will. Thank you for collecting them!I together! We need it.

(P.s. I suddenly recalled there was an idea about creating mascots. And reminded me of my private list of emojis for each software, LOL.)