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It can be endorsing, yes. There's a reason so many democrats are not attending -- going to Netanyahu's speech lends him legitimacy and a greater perception of support.

World politics is about negotiation.

Stopping the genocide doesn't require negotiation, you withhold aid until they stop.

But as I keep saying, Harris will need to find way to signal that her meeting isn't in support of Netanyahu. If she goes in and is giving him hugs and holding his hand up in unity and that kind of bullshit, that's a really bad sign. It can go either way, I'm just stating that I won't support genocide just because it gets a fresh face on it, Harris needs to prove her commitment to holding Netanyahu to account in a real, material way.

Nope. I've been supportive of Harris up to this point since her stepping forward as potential nominee. I genuinely hope she can demonstrate that she's against the genocide.

I'm anti-genocide. Biden's policy on Gaza is fascism. It's the same at its core as Project 2025 or any other far right agenda. He's funding the slaughter of innocent human beings.

I'm not far-right, so I won't support it. Hopefully Harris chooses not to as well.

For fuck’s sake, it’s also not about me.

Yes, it is. It's cowardice and self-interest. You're not going to be able to flip this.

You can't on one hand claim you care about the hypothetical suffering millions while arguing for ignoring a very real on-going genocide funded by your representatives.

"Just let Democrats get away with funding the slaughter of Gazans as long as we can skirt around the consequences of our corrupt politics here."

Maybe this will help; imagine the Gazans are white Americans. Ignore that they're brown and live behind some imaginary line "somewhere else" in the world and instead pretend you see them as equal to you.

When you take the perspective that they're just as human and deserving of life as any of the other domestic groups you're talking about, you realize that Biden is, at this very moment, doing a "Project 2025" of his own. It's just against human beings who happen to be 7,000 miles away instead of closer to you.

If Harris chooses to continue Bidens policy on this, I can't vote for her, exactly the same as I can't vote for Trump or Biden or any other zionist.

Again, we haven't seen if she is as bad as Trump yet. Biden is, we know that, and it's a large part of what made him unelectable. If Harris picks up the genocidal mantle she's inheriting that same unelectability as far as I'm concerned, it would be a politically stupid move.

We have to see now if Harris will take deliberate steps to distance herself from the genocide support of Biden. Meeting with Netanyahu is not a good indication, but it's yet to be seen how it plays out.

You dismiss the idea that the humanity of Palestinians is equal to your own. Its ok for them to die under the bombs and weapons we supply to Israel, as long as it allows us to avoid our own domestic discomfort. We differ on this fact.

I'm part of the groups that will probably be most immediately effected by a Trump admin. That fear will not push me to support a genocide.

If the American system is broken and corrupted then we as Americans should be facing and reconciling those problems ourselves, not transferring our own potential discomfort and suffering overseas to kids that are out of sight and out of mind.

I won't support genocide in another country to spare myself from potential harm, no, that would be morally bankrupt.

I don't vote based on fear. I can't be threatened in that way.

"Anything but voting for Trump is supporting Harris."

Nonsensical, right?

Biden and Trump are equally bad on genocide, there is no "worse". If Harris chooses to signal she's continuing Biden's genocide support I'm out again. I'm willing to compromise on Harris' generally but nothing has changed in my tolerance for pro-genocide candidates, and nothing ever will.

Luckily not funding genocide is an easy hurdle to cross. We'll see if Harris manages to do it.

No. This is about Democratic support of genocide. I simply won't support any candidate willing to help kill and starve children.

If Dems want my vote the price is the same as it's been; don't support far-right fascists committing genocide.

Very, very low bar.

I won't support pro-genocide candidates. Yes really.

She really should not be meeting with right-wing fascists.