Yes, that's what I'm referring to. Remember how many moderate Democrats ate that shit up and anointed him the working-class whisperer? He wants that back.
pjwestin
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If I had heard that as a kid in 1992 I would have thought I was crazy, and I wouldn't have been able to find out if it was real until I learned how the internet worked in 1999.
"Tea. Earl Grey. Fucking hot."
Sneak it into any episode, the less expected the better.
It's 2032. The Democratic ticket is Mike Pence and J.D. Vance. Their key issue is immigration, where they argue that immigrants should be sent to labor camps instead of exterminated. They are easily defeated by Trump, who's entire campaign consists of telling incoherent stories about celebrities until he trails off into a series of racial slurs. The Democrats believe they lost by being too soft on immigration, but they're optimistic that they can have a productive relationship with Vice President Benjamin Netanyahu.
I read this as him attempting to stand up to Elon and regain some of the political relevance he had before he joined the Trump ticket. Of course, it's not gonna work. He's gonna get curb-stomped (potentially literally, at this point), and by 2028, the Democrats will be campaigning with him.
I'm sure if they just go little further right they'll get 'em next time.
It's literally the first comment, dude. I detail a huge fucking list of powerful people who fucked up so bad the Democrats lost to one of the least popular Presidents of all time, then ended it with, "Anyway, once we've held all those people accountable for letting Trump win, then maybe we can see if there's any blame left for protesting leftists or apathetic working-class voters." It's literally a politicians job to win elections, but this community is full of memes blaming the left because the Democrats suck at their job.
No, they're both doing the same thing, for the same reason.
Yes, but you're framing one as victims, while the other you're treating with contempt. Might want to examine what you've internalized that makes you feel that way.
Bruh, you were the one who brought up the minority vote, and you did so as a 'refutation' to the idea that letting Trump into power is something that is going to kill minorities.
A) I brought up minority groups abandoning Harris because you brought up how people who didn't vote for her were betraying minorities. B) I never said Trump wasn't going to get minorities killed. He's gonna kill a lot of people, and I'm sure disproportionate numbers of minorities will wind up dead. C) If this many people, across all demographics, decided they were either better off voting for the fascist or indifferent to the fascists victory, what does that tell you about how Democratic leadership is going?
Anyway, good luck mulling that stuff over, Pug.
Literally and explicitly said, to you, in this conversation, that the left wasn't the lynchpin of any of this. But who needs facts when you have windmills to tilt against?
Last point I'm gonna make here, then I need to move on with my life. I'm not saying that if the left united behind Harris it would have turned the tide, I'm just responding to your demand for obedience from the left instead of leadership from the party. For the record, no, I highly doubt that, if all the people who cast protest votes instead voted for Harris, it would have changed the outcome.
For Harris to have won, she would have needed to win all the votes she lost to apathy. Most people who don't like a candidate don't stay home in protest or vote third party, they just convince themselves that one vote doesn't matter and decide to do laundry or cook dinner instead of standing in a poll line.
So I'm not gonna blame voters for being unmotivated, I'm gonna blame Harris for not motivating them. I'm not going to blame protest voters for withholding their vote, I'm gonna blame Harris for not addressing their protest. I'm not gonna blame critics of Harris for being too vocal, I'm going to blame Harris for giving us so much to criticize. Because only an idiot would think it's more productive to scold the 275 million Americans who didn't vote for Harris instead of demanding change from the handful of Democrats who run the party. Now that's tilting against windmills, Pug.
So, when leftists don't vote for the party, they're being unreasonable, whiney children who are enabling facism. But when minority voters don't vote for the Democrats, they're the helpless victims of fascist propaganda? Cool, I guess we've reached the racist, "savior," trope portion of the liberal coping process. If only those poor minorities hadn't been led astray by all those leftists and fascists, right Pug?
Fucking incredible how far you'll go to blame everyone but the people responsible for the loss. Oh, did Harris' shitty campaign cause widespread voter apathy? Don't blame the campaign for that, blame the people who talked about it too openly. Oh, you wanted a, "United Front," against Trump? Do you blame Harris for failing to unite the party behind her? You know, the fucking job of a leader? Nope, it's the lefts fault for not falling in line.
Like, I don't even know what to do with this anymore. You're watching the Democratic coalition collapsed under the party’s mismanagement, and you're blaming the coalition instead of party. Get a grip, Pug, FFS.
Rescinding the order is great, but we can't get complacent. He's not just doing clearly illegal things to test his boundaries. He's also normalizing illegal actions. If one big illegal order gets shot down, it will be easier to overlook the five smaller illegal actions he gets away with.