open2db8

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[–] open2db8 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The point is NONE of it happened. Any more than any of the "miracles" and such Christianity plagiarized from predecessor religions happened.

[–] open2db8 8 points 11 months ago

I have long suspected that your "buyer's remorse" proposition is true for most believers. Given the breadth of the effect religious belief has on the business of living one's life and the seeming competition for being more fervent than the next guy in the pew, I suppose it is to be expected to one degree or another.

The mental distress of coming to terms with the realization that you have wasted some part of the one most valuable commodity one has (days of life) has to be incredibly difficult to bear.

[–] open2db8 1 points 1 year ago

“for most of U.S. history, there was little actual legal framework to support any such interpretation of the Second Amendment. It wasn't until a relatively recent Supreme Court decision that this all changed.”

The article you linked to bases its premise on that statement, which is demonstrably incorrect. Any review of the debates on the BoR of the day, in particular of the Federalist Papers and the Anti-Federalist Papers will have little difficulty in discerning the intent of the founders. Concerning court interpretations, as I am not as erudite as most, I'll refer you to this. It is taken from a constitutional commentary from the University of Minnesota Law School (https://scholarship.law.umn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1275&context=concomm):

"From the enactment of the Bill of Rights through most of the twentieth century, the second amendment seems to have been understood to guarantee to every law-abiding responsible adult the right to possess most ordinary firearms. Until the mid-twentieth century courts and commentaries (the two earliest having been before Congress when it voted on the second amendment) deemed that the amendment "confirmed [the people] in their right to keep and bear their private arms," or "their own arms."

In a 1939 case which is its only full treatment, the Supreme Court accepted that private persons may invoke the second amendment, but held that it confines their freedom of choice to militia-type weapons, i.e., high quality handguns and rifles, but not "gangster weapons" such as sawed-off shotguns, switchblade knives and (arguably) "Saturday Night Specials. " In the 1960s this individual right view was challenged by scholars who argued that the second amendment guarantee extends only to the states' right to arm formal military units. This states' right view attained predominance, and was endorsed by the ABA, the ACLU and such texts as Lawrence Tribe's American Constitutional Law. During the 1980s, however, a large literature on the amendment appeared, much of it rejecting the states' right view as inconsistent with the text and with new research findings on the legislative history, the attitudes of the authors, the meaning of the right to bear arms in antecedent American and English legal thought, and the role that an armed citizenry played in classical liberal political philosophy from Aristotle through Machiavelli and Harrington to Sidney, Locke, Rousseau and their various disciples. Indicative of the current Supreme Court's probable view is a 1990 decision which, though focusing on the fourth amendment, cites the first and second as well in concluding that the phrase "right of the people" is a term of art used throughout the Bill of Rights to designate rights pertaining to individual citizens (rather than to the states)."

There is an easily traced history regarding the Second, clearly showing the intent to protect a naturally-existing right of the individual against incursion by government.

[–] open2db8 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! I'll look it over after I get home.

[–] open2db8 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is that so? I'll be wanting a citation for that assertion. In the interim, you might read the following. It presents an actual informed, expert opinion on the subject at hand:

https://constitution.org/1-Constitution/2ll/schol/2amd_grammar.htm

[–] open2db8 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I disagree. You can ALWAYS trust a zealot. You just won't like the things you can always trust them to do...

[–] open2db8 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You won't debate the semantics because you would lose said debate and because you know it is germane.

I imagine you know full well that the meaning of "well-regulated" as used in the BOR and "organized" as used in the USC are not the same, and your suggestion that they are is nonsense. The former refers to training and armament. The latter is used to describe the part of the militia that is also part of the National Guard and that which is not.

As you seem to think I have not read it, here is the entirety of it:

(a)The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32, under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.

(b)The classes of the militia are—

(1)the organized militia, which consists of the National Guard and the Naval Militia; and (2)the unorganized militia, which consists of the members of the militia who are not members of the National Guard or the Naval Militia.

I suggest it is you who either did not read it, or doing so, did not understand it. If you are
A) a citizen of the Unites States B) Male and C) in the age range of 17-45 (with some variance for NG) then you are a member of the unorganized militia.

[–] open2db8 4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

No, you couldn't. Familiarize yourself with 10 U.S. Code § 246 which actually defines exactly what the militia (both organized militia and unorganized militia) are:

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/246

I don't have demographic data to reference, but I imagine the United States has a LOT of male citizens between the ages of 17 and 45.

[–] open2db8 1 points 1 year ago
[–] open2db8 6 points 1 year ago

I remain convinced this device was originally designed specifically to make as much noise as possible, and was only later used for storing baked goods.

[–] open2db8 9 points 1 year ago

"This judge is a coward", I think .

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