neatchee

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[–] neatchee 18 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Recounts do not include submitting new votes.

And either way, good luck getting a partisan controlled office to institute a recount or re-vote in the current political climate.

You are gambling on the hope that the problem gets fixed later. This is a terrible idea.

And local election offices - often under partisan control - have no obligation to assist individuals in getting their ballot cast.

You are either being extremely naive to the realities on the ground, or intentionally disingenuous.

[–] neatchee 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The gift isn't the crime.

Telling people you're holding a sweepstakes, collecting their information based on that statement, and then not holding the sweepstakes and instead giving the supposed prize to someone of your choice is the crime

It's called fraud

[–] neatchee 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

You assume their goal is to get him off entirely and not to simply shift the crime to a lesser offense

[–] neatchee 89 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (8 children)

None of the resources detailed in this post provide any form of immediate assistance to resolve an ongoing threat to your ability to cast your vote.

They will not help you find a lawyer. They will not help pay for that lawyer. They will not contact law enforcement and apply pressure to have them respond in a timely manner.

These should NOT be your first call. They should be who you report to after the fact to pursue long term remediation.

If you are a Democrat, call a left-leaning political org with sufficient funding and an army of lawyers.

If you are a Republican, call a right-leaning political org with sufficient funding and an army of lawyers.

THEN call the folks in the OP

If your ballot is never cast, it can't be fixed later. The best the folks in the OP can do is punish the people who committed the crime. They can't get your vote counted. The political orgs are specifically set up to help in real-time to make sure you and everyone else at your polling place gets to vote NOW!

[–] neatchee 36 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Except it is a violation of the law, just a different law. They defrauded the public by collecting something of material value (registrant information) under false pretenses. It's textbook fraud

[–] neatchee 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Which is why allowing the right to use the label "pro-life" was a cardinal sin of the Democrats' strategy

I'm literally pro-life: I support saving lives whenever and wherever it's reasonable to do so

But I'm pro-choice, because I don't think I should be the one to decide for everyone else which situation is reasonable and which isn't. Also, women deserve basic fucking rights and bodily autonomy is, like, the number one most fundamental right

We really ought to change the nature of the conversation: it's not "pro-life". It's pro-enslavement, pro-religious-tyranny, and pro-absolutism

[–] neatchee 4 points 3 months ago

Sense & Sensibility 🤓

Get it? Because it's a period piece?

I'll see myself out

[–] neatchee 16 points 3 months ago

I appreciate your capacity to recognize a valid argument even when it conflicts with your initial position ❤️ It's more than I expect from the average internet commenter

[–] neatchee 4 points 3 months ago (4 children)

It was a minor aside. It was very obviously not the primary point of my reply. You chose to fixate on it. And you continue to do so. Seriously done with you now, chief. 👋

[–] neatchee 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It's a charicature. I'm not laughing because I think it's real (which would be kind of mean, anyway, since I'd just be laughing at someone screwing up). I'm laughing because it's relatable to real experiences many people have had, and because of the added commentary about software development.

Your hyperfocus on reality in media, and failure to see the comedy for what it truly is, is far more cringe than the video 😉

EDIT: it's like asking why people laugh at the obviously fake stories stand-up comedians tell because they're made up. Like, yeah, no shit, that's not the point.

[–] neatchee 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

I see that you won't even bother trying to address the initial point of my reply so I'm done here. I'm not trying to debate the merits of a case that never even went to trial, when the whole point of my reply was to simply point out that you were being outrageously hyperbolic

Address the actual complaint or gtfo.

[–] neatchee 7 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Honestly, at this point, I don't even care, because the main point I was trying to make stands either way: this is not, by an stretch of the imagination, as crooked as they come. Seriously. You must see that at this point. Like, the fact that we're even having this discussion over the nuances of the case is itself proof that it's not the worst form of crooked.

Do I really need to start listing off the people throughout history who have been far more crooked? Or can you just admit you were being hyperbolic and exaggerating for effect?

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