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Oh so you were lying when you said that you condone stealing from Mom and Pop shops that treat their workers like shit?
You can't even keep your own arguments straight. Completely done with you. Get blocked
Lol you think because I don't condone wanton theft and lawlessness, that because I'm not a psycho libertarian it means I support capitalism?
Quite narrow minded. You lack vision and nuance.
Sadly for you, existence is more complex than "capitalism bad". Some things with really well as a capitalist venture (like trying to start any endeavor that takes large initial investment to get going because it's only viable when produced at scale). Other things are fucking horrifying to manage as capitalist endeavors (like prison and healthcare and education).
You're like a puppy, easily distracted by the shiniest thing and unable to hold more than one concept at a time.
I'm done. I've wasted enough time talking to you, you walking, talking, "is it me who's wrong? No it's them" principal skinner meme 😂
So you're an anarchist. You get to decide who deserves to be treated fairly and who doesn't. Cool. If I ever find out who you are I'll rob you blind and say it's all fair because something something wage theft and I don't think you deserve what you have something something. If you get to pick and choose who to steal from then so do I. And we'll all just kill each other over our disagreements. 😬
Ahahaha you're really trying to claim an IQ superiority on the internet 😂 Cry more
Have fun blaming others for your failures Mr $6000/yr High IQ. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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You didn't answer my question at all. What is the line for what is acceptable to steal?
Are you saying that until there is a fair minimum wage anyone can steal anything and feel no guilt or shame? That it's all okay, ethically and morally, because of the minimum wage?
That's bonkers, if that's what you're saying. But honestly your entire rant didn't address my question of when theft is okay and when it isn't
You are absolutely crazy conspiracy theorist level nuts, you know that? Stop drinking the libertarian Kool-Aid
I'm not even going to begin to try to break down your comment because there is so much bullshit to unpack but I will at least say this:
Economics is the study of how people use resources and make decisions, and how those decisions impact the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services
That is not a made up science. The conclusions economists draw, the theories they promote, etc can be twisted and manipulated but there are fundamental truths about economics to be found. Calling it a made up science is a rejection of objective truth and makes you sound like a lunatic
We have to draw the line somewhere. It is not reasonable to say "anyone can steal anything from anyone if they look homeless".
Obviously everyone's situation is unique and I won't judge the individual until I know all the context, but I'm not gonna turn a blind eye to someone stealing luxury items from a small business.
Sometimes an immediate relief from psychological suffering through the escapism of alcohol is no different than the immediate need for food. Sometimes the alternative is death
Luxury items that have no cheaper, reasonable alternative are where I draw the line. Alcohol to cope with the chronic pain and psychological suffering that homelessness brings is not really a luxury in my book
We're actually talking about this in another reply to my comment haha. Outcome is unknown because he was charged as a minor so literally everything is sealed but he did graduate highschool so not in prison
Yuck. That's pretty distressing :( It sounds like the civil case is still ongoing? Maybe the parents will feel some burden (as guardians should in this case).
For what it's worth, just to clarify for anyone reading along with the context of this conversation:
- nobody died in this incident, though multiple people suffered long term debilitating physical and psychological trauma
- the perpetrator was a minor, and in an assault case where there was no clear intent to cause physical harm - the trend of "rolling coal" being one of intimidation and clout-chasing - the virtue of pursuing criminal convictions that would be expunged before any sentencing of substance could occur is questionable
- as a minor, any plea agreement or settlement would be sealed. Not even the victims would be allowed to discuss it. So it's very possible it wasn't just an "oopsie" but a settlement where the kid lost his license, was placed under house arrest, was required to do community service, with the parents helping cover medical expenses.... We'd never know. Which is itself a problem, for sure, because it undermines the deterrent factor for others!
- there is still an opportunity for civil remedies for the victims, and I'm confident their insurance providers will be trying to recoup their costs
What a shitty situation. Frankly, the law is just really poorly equipped to handle minors who engage in reckless endangerment with a vehicle. We badly need to get some better laws on the books for handling kids who show wonton disregard for others' safety, especially when it's just for clout
It seems like the prosecutor really did want to go hard on this case too. The article mentions a previous conviction against someone who actually did kill cyclists with their vehicle: life in prison
In 2017, an army veteran named Victor Tome had veered head-on into a group of people riding bikes in Waller County. The crash killed two riders. Tome, who’d been intoxicated on a mixture of drugs, received a life sentence without parole.
But to bring it back around to the OP: I think this kinda proves the point I was trying to make...nobody is getting away with murder. And I have a strong suspicion that if anyone had been killed, they'd have tried to prosecute the driver as an adult.
I need to go watch something happy after reading that article. What a horrible incident. Maybe the victims got justice and we won't ever know, and it certainly seems like the city/county made some significant changes in the aftermath. But it still doesn't feel right. :(
Interestingly there is a body of research that suggests enjoyment of music comes from having exactly one of two things, never both:
Familiarity and predictability
If it's neither familiar nor predictable, it is inscrutable and therefore discomforting to listen to
If it is both familiar and predictable it is boring
If it's familiar but unpredictable, it feels like a journey through known emotions
If it's predictable but unfamiliar it feels like 'logical discovery' and is fun and satisfying
A bit reductive but I love this idea