multiplicitypoe

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I plan to keep it up. It does cost a decent bit every month, but with Cloudflare caching most requests, it's not too bad. The place I need more help from is moderators that are familiar with the fediverse and PoE, currently it's just me This community is really cool, so it's really just banning bots or people coming here to post rude stuff and then leave.

If this instance goes down, I believe any content kbin or other sites have mirrored stays up, but new posts wouldn't be visible

If it costs too much I'll set up a Patreon or something, I already have a private one that covers maybe 80% of discord bot costs, but I don't post it anywhere because I don't want to ever profit off of this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I assume by your decision question you're asking about the sub reopening? If that's the case, reddit is forcing subreddits open. Although some of the core mod team is resigning, we felt it'd be better to ease the new mods in with help, rather than have reddit fully replace the team and get random users.

As for the instance, it will be staying up! I'll try to keep poereddit.com up as well to mirror posts, but with reddit's API changes it will likely need to remain historical, through March 31st 2023.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yep. We expect it too. If the community chooses to continue to keep the subreddit NSFW (we'll re-poll every now and then), we'll push back on the admins about it. That said if they toggle the subreddit to non-nsfw and lock it that way, we'll just have to tell the community it's not possible

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

So is marking the sub nsfw a viable option? It seems like Reddit is pushing back on that.

Reddit is pushing back, but from talking to other mods in the mod coord, the only ones who have been fully demodded are ones that allowed explicit content. Just marking as NSFW seems okay, the linux subreddits have all done that. PoE even has good justification for going NSFW, the game is rated M for nudity, gore, violence, etc, and the subreddit does use profanity in about 25-30% of all posts (I checked via the poereddit.com database)

So, if the community wants it, I expect we'll do it unless something changes

Have you considered the move r/politicalhumor made by giving everyone (limited) mod powers?

I hadn't heard about it until you saw it, looking at it now huh, that's pretty interesting. I worry about the users who post every day but generally expose lightly-toxic behavior abusing this. I suppose it's only temporary though. Will keep an eye on it

What are your thoughts on Captain Lance’s video?

I saw that and I regret that we didn't make our poll 1) more simple and 2) more clear about what 'nsfw' means. Those were communication failures on our part. It was an honest mistake, but we should've caught it.

 
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Your concerns are super valid. And on the GGG using reddit to communicate I can tell you they stopped doing that already for other reasons a while back. I'm sure we'll see a big Chris post about PoE 2 at some point but not much else. Fighting toxicity is really really hard. We eliminate 90% of it and it's still a lot

Ultimately we have to go with what the community decides here, now that we've polled. The community is asking to determine the future and they've made the vote clear.

That said, we will absolutely re-poll the community later (a week? a month?) to ask if they want to stop it, so there will be more opportunities to change it. This protest won't be forever. I'd say just take a deep breath and keep using the subreddit as before, starting later tonight (PT).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It would be somewhat weird for that to be the case, the post never got enough traction to show up on /r/all

Maybe if it was linked in some group somewhere

I do wonder about a comment-based poll, where you need a certain amount of karma to vote and it auto removes + processes comments as they are made. Not sure how to set that up, but I've seen it done. My main concern with it is that the community can't see clearly what the vote was

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Am I positive it won't get out of hand? Not entirely, a lot of our mods are retiring and we will not have bandwidth to moderate everything as quickly as we have before.

The community's votes say they want the NSFW option, I'm fine with it too, but the comments seem more against it, it's a bit concerning

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We won't be allowing any more appropriate content than we currently do, so the limit is really a Poe statue that's unclothed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Oh, to be clear we have never considered allowing actual pornography or gore on the subreddit. All the rules and mod enforcement will be the same. This poll option would just mark all posts as nsfw in the UI, which hurts reddit's advertising quite a bit.

We can justify this by the game being rated M for violence, nudity, etc, and around 1/4 posts has profanity in it or it's comments, based on some database queries I ran

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah there was something wrong with the emailer last week, sorry about that!

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, check out this comment: https://pathofexile-discuss.com/comment/7833

There will be an update early this week

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

If the subreddit is up, probably not.

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hi all,

The subreddit is still down (more on that soon) as part of the widespread protests against Reddit's changes. While the official pathofexile forums and the /r/pathofexile discord are still available for questions, guides and community chat, the most common modmail we've gotten during this week has been people asking to see specific threads on the subreddit which contain useful game information. We've been working on a workaround for the community.

How to use it

Here's an example. You're on Google searching for "poe how to sustain maps", the first result will be this link, which shows the subreddit private page https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/x4ot0f/how_the_heck_are_people_managing_to_sustain_maps/

Now, you can take any link like that, and add poe before reddit.com, and see the submission and comments, for example: https://www.poereddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/x4ot0f/how_the_heck_are_people_managing_to_sustain_maps/

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Caveats:

  • The amount of comments/submissions in the PoE sub is huge, so we are only able to store text. Links to videos and images work, but a native reddit video for example would not.
  • Data is only present up through March 31st, 2023. Data beyond that is significantly harder to bulk submit, but we're working on it.
  • If a user has opted out of data collection on reddit via pushshift, their comments/submissions are not present. All user information was stripped out of this mirror though
  • This index includes deleted posts, so if you're browsing the index page of the site, you'll see posts that say deleted. That's because they are.
  • Comments are unsorted, you may need to scroll down on the page to view comments with interesting replies
How is this accomplished:

We downloaded all the comments and the submissions from Pushshift, an open copy of reddit's content, and put them into a database using a tool called Redarc

TLDR: When you find a reddit.com/r/pathofexile/foo link, change it to poereddit.com/r/pathofexile/foo to see the posts and comments

Hopefully this is useful to people, we've been sending it as a reply to modmails asking to see subreddit threads

Wishing ya'll a good weekend, Multi

 

https://www.macrumors.com/2023/06/15/reddit-threatens-to-remove-subreddit-moderators/

Reddit: If a moderator team unanimously decides to stop moderating, we will invite new, active moderators to keep these spaces open and accessible to users. If there is no consensus, but at least one mod wants to keep the community going, we will respect their decisions and remove those who no longer want to moderate from the mod team.

Based on this, it's very possible that the Path of Exile subreddit will end up being assigned to some other group of people than the current set

This might be due to statements from advertisers that they would stop paying for reddit ads if the blackout lasted longer

https://www.adweek.com/social-marketing/ripples-through-reddit-as-advertisers-weather-moderators-strike/

Campaigns have notched slightly lower impression delivery and consequently, slightly higher CPMs, over the days of the blackout, Johnson said. If the performance weakness continues for a week or two, the agency would start recommending decreasing spend with Reddit or directing it to other platforms.

I don't know what this means right now for the community. Not everyone has had a chance to respond in the mod team yet, but so far, it looks to be strongly in favor of not opening the subreddit as a result of reddit saying this. The general consensus is that Reddit won't be able to / won't actually choose to replace many thousands of mods.

 

Hi ya'll,

There are a lot of useful guides for players on the subreddit, which is currently down. If you are in desperate need of one of those guides, take the link to it (or search the name on google) and paste it into https://archive.org/web/ , the most popular guides should be there.

If not, then this would be a good time to provide feedback to reddit.com that their changes will kill the site. Complain. Message the mods of /r/reddit.com, who are the admins of the site: message /u/reddit : submit a support request: leave a negative review on their official iOS or Android app.

More context about the issue if you'd like further reading: Why is the blackout happening

-Multi

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Questions Thread (pathofexile-discuss.com)
 

Questions Thread

This is a general question thread

Remember to check the community wiki first.

You can also ask questions in any of the questions channels under the "help" category in our official Discord.

The idea is for anyone to be able to ask anything related to PoE:

  • New player questions
  • Mechanics
  • Build Advice
  • League related questions
  • Trading
  • Endgame
  • Price checks
  • Etc.

No question is too big or too small!

We encourage experienced players to sort this thread by new.

To people who answer questions: You guys are the best! Keep making the community great!

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

Hi Ya'll,

MultiplicityPOE here, I help run the POE Discord and POE subreddit

With reddit.com/r/pathofexile and other subreddits going dark due to Reddit's API Changes, it made sense to me to have an alternative platform to post on, possibly just during this window, but maybe beyond, who knows

To see a read only copy of the Poe subreddit check here: https://pathofexile-discuss.com/post/2061

As for rules, just be kind and generally talk about PoE. There's a separate board here for discussing reddit stuff

Hope ya'll enjoy it!

-- Multiplicity

PS: If the site is broken in any way, feel free to contact me on the PoE Discord server, by opening a modmail or DMing me directly from the server

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