jhymesba

See? This is the bullshit this poster throws out when confronted.

NOBODY is going to go make a scatter-graph of this poster's posting habits to show how often it's on posting. We're just going to do the easy maths. Like I just did. ON AVERAGE this poster makes a comment every 18 minutes. If it sleeps 8 hours, we would divide 80 by 16, and the posting rate becomes an even more insane once per 12 minutes, every waking moment of the day. And then we start asking other uncomfortable questions, like...'does this person work for a living? Or is this person's work posting on here for a living?' Not where I think this poster wants us to start drifting in our thinking, I don't think.

But that fits with the ban for trolling this poster got. It knows that once every 18 minutes, or once every 12 minutes sixteen hours a day, or once every six minutes eight hours a day looks bad, so it starts distractifying with the nonsense that I'm saying straight out that it stays up 24/7/365 which would make it a bot or at least a group of people operating on 24 hour shifts. I'm just saying that if you average it all out, this poster is dedicating ridiculously stupidly large amounts of time to force it down our throat that it's voting third party.

Again. I'm only interacting with this poster because we're not crushing Trump 70 to 30. Were we, I'd not even bother with this foolish human (?) -- let it waste its vote if it wants, that won't make Trump more likely. But somehow, Trump is pulling 49.8% in some very scary places, and we ALL need to be all hands on deck, and the only reason you wouldn't be is if you don't mind if Trump wins and fucks the entire goddamn country in the process.

Heh, indeed. In the end, we have a fight on our hands. If this election were to be decided like it should be, 70 to 30 AGAINST the convicted felon, if not more, then our resident Satanist could be ignored without a second thought. But it's like 50.1 vs. 49.9 in the closest races, the ones that will decide the election in the EC, with the Shitgibbon just a HAIRS width behind Harris, and we've got all the same shitheads that we PROVED in 2016 were in the tank for Russia and Trump, pushing the exact same bullshit that the Dems are the evilest evil since the beginning of Evil and you should totally vote for the Greenie or somebody else or just fucking stay home, and it fucking worked in 2016 and was pretty damn close to working in 2020. And they're using and abusing all forms of social media to keep shovelling their bullshit.

Just 28 days, 4 hours, 11 minutes and 36...35...34 HEHEHE seconds until this shit is over. Here's hoping it ends with the good outcome and not Trump for 4 more years!

This poster seems to have forgotten the times it 'slid up in my DMs' to 'check up on me'...I haven't. :)

This is the poster's posting history from my perspective. 1490+ posts. 3410+ comments. That's over a 61 day period. That's 4900 posts and comments, which comes out to 80 posts and comments a day, 3.347 posts per hour, or roughly once per 17.9 minutes.

The receipts are up there. Thanks @SatansMaggotyCumFart for the work of figuring out this poster's utter dedication to posting.

Oh, I'm 100% with you on this! It comes down to this because we have such a bitterly divided country (and frankly world -- 8 years ago, I was begging to move to Canada, now, not so much), and it's real easy to convince people in swing-states to make frankly absofuckinglutely stupid decisions and vote Third Party.

I was just saying it can be worse. That Stein voter could just cut to the chase and vote Trump to 'burn it all down'...like many said they were going to do in 2016.

I will give this a tiny bit of leyway.

Every vote for Trump is BOTH a lost vote for Harris, AND a vote for Trump. If there are 100 people voting for Trump and Harris as neighbourhood VIP, and 80 of them pledge themselves for Harris and 20 for Trump, it's not a big deal if 50 of the 80 Harris voters decide on Election Day that they'd rather be doing something else than voting, Harris wins 30 to 20, and we're all good. We could even lose 1 or 2 of these votes to Third Party candidates like Stein, and it'd not matter, But if 29 of the 80 voters say "fuck that woman, Imma vote for Trump", then suddenly we need all 51 remaining voters to stay on deck, because if three of them decide to stay home or vote third party, we're fucked. If only ONE of them decides to join the Trumpers, it's game over -- 50/50 tie, and the game is rigged for the Trumpers to get him elected VIP if that happens.

That is what I meant by marginally better. That Stein voter could have betrayed everything they claim to stand for and become a Trump voter, after all!

This poster disagrees that it was guilty of Sealioning. That's amusing.

Dear reader, let's look at what Sealioning is.

In short, it's a form of trolling. Sealioning is defined specifically by the following characteristics:

• A faux veneer of civility. That's because the troll wants to play victim when others lose their sense of civility dealing with said troll.
• Persistence. Another poster here points out how often this poster posts, and it comes out to once every 18 minutes, every hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. A Sealion tries to erode one's sense of goodwill and decorum by constantly hounding people that disagree with it,
• A fake attempt to appear to be trying to educate oneself or others.

Sealioning isn't an exact match for this poster's behaviour, but it's damn close. Little petty grammar and spelling nazi comments. Intruding into other people's DMs without permission. Constantly hiding behind the community rules. Using and abusing the fuck out of laws of civility and this community, while having zero intention to do anything but be disruptive, annoying, insulting, condescending, and otherwise just plain unpleasant, secure in the knowledge that we can't call it out for what it is because the Mods have handcuffed us with these silly 'be civil' rules.

The mods have actually tagged this poster with a three day timeout for being a troll. I don't think that gives me permission to carte blanc call this poster a troll, but I can at least point out every time I see it pushing its latest nonsense that the moderator team here has suspended its access for 3 days for trolling. We'll see if the mods let that stay up. Given the nonsense that the mods have let stay up for the person they put in time out for being a troll, I hope it will. Kind of like calling out a convicted thief as a thief, or a convicted fraudster as a fraudster. Just with a silly extra step because we wouldn't want to be uncivil to someone who is wanting to be uncivil to us.

If this poster didn't take our feedback personally, it'd go to its special little corner of Lemmy and post all it wants there, because obviously the community here doesn't like this poster, and finally, the moderation team is saying they've had enough of its shit.

It's here because it really wants to 'show us up', posting incendiary topics, needling posters, pushing this meme that Trump would be better than Harris, and constantly egging on commentor after commentor.

Emphasis on this point.

Jill Stein has NO path to victory. She would require a 50%+1 majority in at least 270 EV worth of states. She doesn't even have 10% of the vote share in any state. Thus a vote for her is only marginally better than a vote for Trump, and about as effective as staying home on Election Day.

This particular poster's shiny object, Rechele Fruit, has even LESS of a chance. This candidate would require 50%+1 in three states, plus a successful write-in campaign for 50%+1 in another nine states (has that EVER happened in a SINGLE state) to get 87 EVs, a far cry from the 270 she needs to be elected. A vote for her is a fart in the wind. She doesn't even make the polling.

One of two people will take the Oath of Office in 2025. If you don't want Donald Trump and Project 2025 shoved up our privates, vote Harris. If you don't want Harris, for whatever reason, may you suffer the consequences of Project 2025 particularly harshly, though I doubt many of the shi...err, posters who post here bashing Harris and the Dems will have to suffer the consequences of their claimed votes.

There's definitely a case to be made for charging Trump under the Stolen Valor Act of 2013. The hard part here will be proving Trump's using his Stolen Valour to "fraudulently claim having received a valor award specified in the Act, with the intention of obtaining money, property, or other tangible benefit by convincing another that they received the award." The penalties for this crime appear to be six months to a year in jail.

The problem here is to get a conviction, you'll have to prove that Trump is getting some kind of tangible benefit, which I'm not sure this Trumpian justice system will do.

Stolen Valour.

Asking pollsters to be mind readers is a bit much, in my book. Besides. How can we count on Conservatives not voting for Trump? In that polling place, with hopes for more Conservative judges, fewer abortions, and more 'Real America', the cagey Conservative can vote for the evil without having to own that vote. I've met plenty of Conservatives who say, "I don't like the guy personally, but I do like my 6-3 court, and Liberals want to take that away from me."

If they vote for us, great! That'll make a marginal victory into a landslide victory, and might push a marginal loss into a solid victory. But we can't count on them. We need to do the work to make sure we get past that 50%+1 margin in at least 270 EVs worth of states and not count on other people to do it. I don't want to wake up Wednesday morning and see that Stein got more votes in the state that we needed to get to 270 than Trump won that state by....

The message here is that you shouldn't count on any of that. Polling has its issues, for sure, and there may very well be a huge win for Harris in unexpected places as Republican voters cross the aisle to deny Trump a seat. Or it may all be a mirage and we're back to leftie voters switching to Third Parties or staying home in enough numbers to give Trump the win. The only way to be sure that we win and Project 2025 and Trump are denied are to turn out as if we're 1% down in the polls. Vote like your vote is the +1 in the 50%+1 that determines who will win. Vote as if every single Republican was going to turn out for Trump and his awful policies. And if you honestly think that we've got this in the bag, vote so that the numbers are crazy. Vote so you can get the landslide.

None of the polls matter except the one that concludes next month, that your State will run. Never forget that.