jhymesba

Because your phrasing is disingenuous. You imply nefariousness where none exists. He ran thinking he was the best choice, until he flubbed the debate, and ... get this...he got the majority of delegates. 14 million people voted for him. And he won the Primary. Are you saying you and your ilk are more important than the 14.5 million people who cast their ballots for him (you couldn't manage 2 million votes between your three alternatives to Biden...), and the 3.9k delegates he won? That their expressions of preference should be thrown out so you can have a bruising 4 week primary in August while Trump just uses your various attacks against each of the candidates and racks up hundreds of millions of campaign contributions that he doesn't have to spend until September? And at best, we just use up Biden's campaign warchest trying to fend your candidates off, and at worst, we have to start over with some relative unknown with a depleted warchest, and no access to the Biden/Harris warchest? And go through the whole rigamarole of qualifying for state ballots so close to election day? Not to mention the extra costs of running a second set of primaries because you couldn't accept the fact that you lost?

We had a primary. Biden won that primary. There's no nefarious plan to install Harris. And the only reason that Harris has to run at all is because you lot showed up here and shat all over Biden over and over and over and over and *four hours later * over again. You lot being sore loser hard-leftists, Greenies pissed that they don't have more of a say in government, paid actors and disinformation peddlers hired by Republicans and Russians to fragment the Left coalition like has happened time and time again (stupid 'fall in love' party), and of course those same Russians and Republicans who directly inject BS into our political discussion. And just to be clear, I'm not speculating on which you are, just pointing out that's what your coalition is, and that's why we're here where we are right now.

Biden is the Incumbent, and we took a huge risk, that may well not pay off, swapping him out in mid-race.

Harris is the Vice President. She is the logical successor, by way of our own constitution, to take over if Biden is incapacitated.

Democrats have a long history of tearing each other down when they don't get what they want. Hard-Leftists screamed bloody murder for getting Biden removed. He thought he was up for it (and still does, he did an interview on that recently!), but bowed to increasing calls when it became clear he didn't have the backing of the Dems after the debate performance.

Do you blame the hard left when you shit your pants?

What the fuck is wrong with you. Regardless, I'm reporting this violation of Rule 3. @[email protected] , is this acceptable to you?

Ironic right after the whole discussion from Tee9000 about hatred. Goes to show that that hatred isn't exclusive to Team Pepe.

What does your answer have to do with tee9000's question?

Americans make it a past time to hate on other Americans, and don't think this is limited to Left vs. Right. I like meat. Not going to lie -- I can be convinced to eat more plants and less meat, but I'll fight you if you try to take my meat away. For that, I get called vile things by fanatic vegans who can't seem to accept that I have my own life and make my own choices, despite the fact that I agree with them on a variety of other things, including having a lighter touch on the planet, being responsible stewards of our resources, treating animals with respect and kindness, and of course things like civil rights. Watch this; I expect them to be along shortly to prove my point.

My father and I can't be further apart on politics. He's a Goldwater Republican, old-school hard-core conservative that doesn't like Trump the man, but loves Trump the politician. He runs his big truck on Earth Day just to spite the Environmentalists. Tee9000's question speaks to my dad's and my relationship. If I follow your pattern, I cut him out of my life and leave him high and dry. And trust me: there have been times when I wanted to do exactly that. But what would it accomplish? I'd be disowned by my dad, he'd die old and alone (mom died 5 years ago, I'm his only child), and we'd just hate each other. And I'd never have learned that he swapped out all his incandescent bulbs, which he swore the government would have to pry out of his cold, dead hands, for LED lighting, because...*gasp*...environmentalists listened to the criticisms of CFLs and replaced them with something that matched the quality of lighting from his favourite lights.

You can accomplish far more by listening and cooperating than you do by vilifying and hating on people. That's Tee9000's point.

Now, I'm not saying that you should put up with people misgendering you. Far from it. Stand up for your rights. But maybe instead of cutting people out of your life, you should make inclusion in your life contingent on respect. "You used masculine pronouns to refer to me despite knowing that I prefer feminine pronouns. Unless and until you respect me, I will not interact with you any more." works far better than "fuck you, good bye." It makes it clear on them that they have to respect you, and maybe, just maybe, you'll actually change a few minds. I think that's what Tee9000 is trying to say here.

Definitely seems like the media, bought up by very conservative old men, has a favourite in the election. Not sure if they're pushing the narrative that Trump is surging to depress Democratic Party vote or motivate us to not get complacent.

I could quibble about Clinton overwhelmingly defeating Sanders, but I really don't have to. The actual numbers were 55.2% Hillary Clinton, 43.1% Bernie Sanders. Clinton won a straight majority of votes -- not a plurality, a majority. And I say this as a Bernie Sanders voter who caucused (not voted in a primary, caucused, as in went to a school and stood in a classroom to be counted) for Bernie Sanders. Sanders came in second place because more Democratic Primary voters picked Clinton than Sanders. It wasn't stolen. Clinton won that fair and square. Contrary to all the various little voices that crept out of the woodwork, and I say this, again, as a voter who caucused for Sanders, more Americans wanted a moderate candidate than risk a Progressive that could honestly be tarred as a Socialist.

That said, I would have LOVED to see Crony Capitalism vs. Euro-Socialism as an election in the USA. Too bad, it was Fascism vs. Crony Capitalism....

Kamala Harris is Joe Biden's running mate.

Were Biden to have been incapacitated, Kamala Harris would step in for him. We made this choice back in November 2020, and it'll hold true until January 2025.

Do you expect the Dems to have a contested Primary with less than one month to go until the General? How nice. Everyone will be tearing themselves apart in order to appeal to the various different factions that make up the Democratic Party, weakening each other until the final canidate emerges with a depleted warchest and a whole bunch of bitter people whose favoured candidate DIDN'T win? And assuming Harris, the VP and assumed successor for Biden, doesn't win this contested primary, has to return the warchest Biden built up?

And Trump will be waiting in the wings, with a building warchest and backers setting up GOTV. Again. Does the far-left WANT Trump to win, because man, that's what it looks like to me!

He stepped down because he saw that America took his gaffes at the debate more seriously than he thought they should, not because he feels he's not up to the job. Honestly, our way of selecting Presidents sucks. An objective look at this admin versus the last admin would make that decision easy -- Biden has set himself up for success by hiring competent underlings rather than yes-men, and he managed to reverse killer inflation and handle a global pandemic, while fighting against one tyrant. He's not perfect. Nobody is. He is open to criticism over his handling of Palestine and Israel and we sure can criticise his unwillingness to hold Netanyahu as accountable as he wants to handle Putin. But the other guy set up Biden for the last 4 years of bullshit with his utter mismanagement of the country, and plans on making things ten times worse. Biden looked at the polling, at the bullshit settling down on his administration and on him personally, and said he'd step back so Harris could run.

As for why Harris got the nod? There was less than a month until the General Election, virtually all of the Primaries had already been had, and despite all the bullshit being peddled about him, he won the Primary. Harris was on his ticket. They wanted to transition easily into the General without a bajillion crazy little questions about the Biden/Harris campaign, its warchest, and avoid a bloodbath between various Democratic Party factions all screaming for their guy/gal just in time for Trump to trounce the weakened candidate in the general, they leveraged the same process that would have happened had that nutbar that shot at Trump taken a shot at Biden and didn't miss -- the VP becomes POTUS. And this allows Harris to not have to jump through hoops for ballot access nor start from scratch with campaign finances, which unfortunately are STILL important for getting into the White House.

Sadly, the bullshit shifted to Harris and we're back where we were before. Does the hard-left WANT Trump in office, because it sure fucking looks like they do.

Need 🤣 reaction. So ⬆ instead.

This might surprise some people, but I actually agree with this. I'd love to take a risk on a Green or Socialist or even Libertarian candidate without risking throwing my vote away to the Republican. I'd still not do it with Presidents (the Electoral College fucks you over there), but I'm voting for RCV this November and look forward to eventually being able to not just vote for the lesser evil, nor have to vote for the crook because the other option in that election is a literal fascist...

I think these guys would leave the Dems unranked. I suspect they'd even rank Republicans over them, with the amount of "hate Dems" they got going.

Americans as a whole are dumb. Expecting them to use RCV like it should be used is like expecting a pigeon to play chess. We know what actually happens when you try to play chess with a pigeon.

Yeah, Picard Principle at play here. You can commit no mistakes and still lose. I can argue that there are a few things that Harris could do better. Americans are stupid and cruel as a whole...you tact too hard to the Left, you piss off the moderate voters and they stay home, vote Third Party, or worse, vote Trump, and if you tact too hard to the Right, you piss off liberal voters, and while they are less likely to vote Trump, you still lose their votes.

Man, we shouldn't even be having this conversation at all. Trump is a convicted felon. He should be in jail right now, getting ready for the next trials.

Are you saying it ain't illegal if the cops don't catch you doing it? 🤣