Sounds good but over hard for me.
ifyoudontknowlearn
joined 1 year ago
Interesting we've been watching things here in the south end (the new south end) and things seem just as nuts as last year.
I agree that such protests are not a good thing to expose kids to but to creating a protest free bubble around every thing doesn't seem practical. As an example it would stop a rally in support of black lives matter as well. Or teachers striking.
Suddenly someone has to say what topics are allowed to have rallies and which are not. We don't want to live in that country.
I'd say the police should handle these differently. For example if the protesters are threatening to anyone in the location but I don't see any evidence that they would make even remotely good choices.
Having said that, the police do need to do a better job. It seems to me that if skuffles break out it probably means there is not enough separation between the protesters. I would also like to stop seeing the police helping fascists too but I doubt I will get that wish.
work in a context where the person exercising their speech feels some necessity to use it responsibly
Nice phrasing
However there are people with legitimate ( beliefs and ideas honestly held that they wish to discuss ) views that I worry are going to be silenced and further marginalized.
Sounds kind and charitable. It is not clear to me how universal this is given your opening paragraphs. I would agree that is they way it should be but I don't think that reflects how it is. We need to react based on the actual reality we live in.
However if these are honestly held beliefs that they are willing to engage in civil discourse around I don't think it's right to actually block them.
But what if there is a significant number of people who are just awful humans, or don't have a thought for learning, or are not being open or honest etc.
I support the idea of engagement and discussion but let's be honest there are people who aren't interested in that. There are people who are racist. There are people who really do think you and I are going to hell and they are happy to know that. Sorry there is a reason I don't associate with people like that in real life and I don't want to on line either.
It is not my mission to discuss this kind of thing with all those people. Trolls and awful humans sometimes do need to be ignored. Otherwise we cannot have interesting or productive conversations with anyone.
I say, let those that want to engage and learn find a server or community with standards that we can tolerate. Any community that doesn't have standards to keep reasonable order we should block.
I got 18 out of 20. I'm not going to be able to do all 152 :-)
Agreed that's how you ruin a community fast.
Yeah, unlike the average person on FB I am here literally to be exposed to new and different ideas. Obviously, it's garbage in garbage brain so I'm not interested in reading BS but I don't want someone else deciding what I cannot even see from here. With the exception you mentioned - actual criminals, scams and spam bots but that's it.
Well not actually the OP's main point is decisions are being made super fast so there is no time to even get the opinion of the hive mind but instead an active few get to pick the direction.
Indeed, which is gross and makes me very angry
I like it. Nice. That could be a workable solution. I was concerned by phrases like: no protests against human rights. I manage understand what that means but I have zero confidence that police forces or conservative governments would ever do the right thing with that definition.