garyyo

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[–] garyyo 3 points 1 year ago

Same as far as I can tell. I installed model swap mods for several games, workshop mods for binding of isaac and terraria, and did other random things to games like tweak configs and shit. All of it worked fine. The biggest issues I had is installing random old games in my collection to my steam deck that weren't on steam already, and even that I still managed to make it work.

[–] garyyo 10 points 1 year ago

Do you have the links to the originals of these? I think they are neat

[–] garyyo 22 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Also known as PTFE, it is a plastic substance that has an insanely low coefficient of friction and is thus incredibly fucking useful for so many things. And much like the last weirdly good at doing everything substance (asbestos) it turns out it really should not have been put in everything, but its probably not quite as bad as asbestos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytetrafluoroethylene

[–] garyyo 81 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wdym? Pregnancy is the original lootbox, never know what kind of kids you're gonna get.

[–] garyyo 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can't just ask, that's too dangerous.

[–] garyyo 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] garyyo 12 points 1 year ago

"What are your bank details?"

"... (No response)"

[–] garyyo 4 points 1 year ago

Outside of the costs of hardware, its just power. Running these sorts of computations is getting more efficient, but the sheer amount of computation means that its gonna take a lot of electricity to run.

[–] garyyo 3 points 1 year ago

they know it's impossible to do

There is some research into ML data deletion and its shown to be possible, but maybe not on larger scales and maybe not something that is actually feasible compared to retraining.

[–] garyyo 8 points 1 year ago

While you are overall correct, there is still a sort of "black box" effect going on. While we understand the mechanics of how the network architecture works the actual information encoded by training is, as you have said, not stored in a way that is easily accessible or editable by a human.

I am not sure if this is what OP meant by it, but it kinda fits and I wanted to add a bit of clarification. Relatedly, the easiest way to uncook (or unscramble) an egg is to feed it to a chicken, which amounts to basically retraining a model.

[–] garyyo 7 points 1 year ago

Always has been. The laws are there to incentivize good behavior, but when the cost of complying is larger than the projected cost of not complying they will ignore it and deal with the consequences. For us regular folk we generally can't afford to not comply (except for all the low stakes laws that you break on a day to day basis), but when you have money to burn and a lot is at stake, the decision becomes more complicated.

The tech part of that is that we don't really even know if removing data from these sorts of model is possible in the first place. The only way to remove it is to throw away the old one and make a new one (aka retraining the model) without the offending data. This is similar to how you can't get a person to forget something without some really drastic measures, even then how do you know they forgot it, that information may still be used to inform their decisions, they might just not be aware of it or feign ignorance. Only real way to be sure is to scrap the person. Given how insanely costly it can be to retrain a model, the laws start looking like "necessary operating costs" instead of absolute rules.

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