You couldn't pay me to use this...
Again though, religion isn't necessarily the symptom of these things. Those things can exist without religion. Religion definitely thrives in these environments...
The same way staph/mrsa thrives in hospitals.
And... You are calling me naive?
The reality of the current situation is that Palestine is probably going to cease to exist... And you are asking about a solution where Israel doesn't cease to exist?
I'm confused.
It is important to recognize that this is going to happen regardless of if it is right or not. Palestine is probably going to cease to exist in the coming months. The leaders of the western world have decided to back Israel in this conflict... This doesn't mean it's right. We should absolutely call it out... But this is happening.
Now we have to decide if we let the civilians live or die.
That is a fair critique. Israel isn't solely at fault, but they do share blame. It's difficult to fit the entirety of the history, but from the Palestinian point of view what I said isn't wrong. There may be confounding external causes, but Israel has absolutely been in the wrong from nearly the beginning of its existence.
There are arguments about preventing genocide that are valid, but most of these arguments start from racist ethnostate positions that have very little moral credibility.
Most of Israeli immigration has been from the former Soviet Union, not the middle East... Unless you count the FSU as the Middle East... Which depending on how you want to count things for displaced peoples may be valid... And it really kicked off in the early 70s.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/total-immigration-to-israel-by-year
Excellent.
Which part?
In the United States, I find the Zionist argument to mostly be a racist Christian push to remove Jews from the US.
I recognize that people may believe it without that racism... But it's just a crazy argument to me... And I think the way you originally presented it is the way that is normalized by extreme Christian organizations in the US which is why I called it out.
The British fucked up a bunch of things when they divided up political power as they abandoned their territories... Israel/Palestine and India/Pakistan...
And the wonderful thing about it is we know it is incomplete, because relativity math stops working at the quantum level. Quantum math and relatively math used to be incompatible... The standard model of physics unifies the two(or is it "is unifying" still?), but with that some truly mind-boggling math came out of it. String theory, m theory, multi universe theories... experiments that show macro objects that should respect relativity math behaving according to quantum math... And we are just at the beginning of understanding the implications of what some of the math suggests.