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@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Probably having a very usable Firefox helped out with that a lot too.

I don't know if it would have made sense to prevent Microsoft from "embracing" the Web; we would have lost a lot of people and utility to the whole ecosystem.

@cygnathreadbare @Flipboard @Gargron @mmasnick @quillmatiq @Sarahp This comes up so often. I wonder if there is any good historical documentation for the strategy of dealing with "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" ...? I think the famous example of Microsoft's embrace of the web, and extension via ActiveX and other proprietary features, was headed off by vigorous defense of open standards by @tantek.com , Molly Holschlag, others in the Web Standards group. https://www.webstandards.org/

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] yes, we think that moderators and admins shouldn't have to go broke and quit and shut down their servers.

We'd like to help figure out ways to keep them going -- I prefer the coop model, like the CoSocial server I use, but that's not for everyone.

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] Us too!

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] thanks. That's a fair critique. I'll see what I can do to get the full status of the project onto those pages.

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] It took me a while to figure out what you meant here.

The projects are just starting because the organisation just launched. We'll show the deliverables on those pages when they're done.

@[email protected] Thanks for the thoughtful reply. It's really helpful.

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] IFTAS is awesome.

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] why? That's not what we're working on at all. What made you think the point is advertising and trackers?

@[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected] that's right. We're using the AP plugin. Great to use!

@[email protected] I don't think our goal is just to make money. I do think that having a financially viable Fediverse is important; it's one of our goals. But that can mean a lot of different things: coops, non-profits, grants, or companies.

But the money is a means to an end: having positive, independent social networking software and services.

@clegra @gavinkarlmeier @hakendran not entirely accurate. Threads is working implementing the open standard ActivityPub. We're not changing AP to use Threads.