dublet

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[–] dublet 1 points 1 year ago

482 dog attacks in 2022 resulting in criminal action but a fraction are caused by this particular breed.

In one recent study, researchers compared behavioural tendencies such as impulsivity and sensitivity to positive and negative stimuli – known to trigger aggressive responses – between eight dog breeds that are legislated against (including pit bull types), and 17 breeds that are not. This suggested that breed alone was a poor predictor of individual behavioural tendencies, including those related to aggression.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/11/banning-some-dog-breeds-in-the-uk-wont-stop-attacks-on-humans

[–] dublet 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I pointed out that the fact you refuted wasn’t what the person you replied to was asserting.

There were two claims asserted:

  • "Not a week goes by in the UK without an attack by this breed."
  • "Some survive, many do not."

(Emphasis mine) The first is not something I can find evidence for as there seems to be no break down easily availably by breed. And as for the second, most survive , 0.1% do not.

The down votes being given for asking for data seems like I'm offending some. 🤷

as far as info on which breeds are involved, I’m sure it’s out there.

Does not seem to be as you have also failed to find it. There is aggregate data for all dogs, which yes, is easily found actually refused some of the assertions that the person made.

Banning based on breed seems like a knee jerk reaction based on anecdotes.

[–] dublet 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wednesday: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12522011/Shocking-moment-dog-mauls-boy-football.html

That one is a Staffordshire bull terrier, not the breed being banned for these attacks.

That’s 3 in 6 days.

You didn't actually respond to my comment about a request for statistics, rather posting some individual stories. So since I posted I found this article from the BBC. It states that:

In 2022, there were 8,819 admissions to hospital in England with dog bites.

So that's actually 24 dog attacks per day, so the problem is even more severe than you suggest, though the claim of only "some survive" then is misleading at best.

In 2022, there were 482 sentences given to owners of dangerously out of control dogs which resulted in an injury to a person in public

Out of all those hospital admissions, there's 24 attacks a day being deemed criminal by our justice system. That data suggests that this problem is by no means limited to the XL bully breed.

[–] dublet -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Apparently requesting to have a fact based discussion is offensive. I merely asked for actual data for some rather extraordinary claims.

[–] dublet 0 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Not a week goes by in the UK without an attack by this breed. Some survive, many do not.

Can you please link some statistics on this?

The only source I could find says:

Six of the 10 fatal dog attacks in the UK last year were linked to XL bullies, and at least three of the seven this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/15/why-are-american-xl-bullies-being-banned-and-how-will-it-work

That's too many deaths, of course, but hardly one a week.

[–] dublet 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My biggest worry on this would be where you'd get them re-threaded.

[–] dublet 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are we sure they actually have nuclear weapons to the level they claim? Given the level of corruption displayed elsewhere in their military and the sheer funds relatively allocated to their nuclear programme, it would not surprise me if their nuclear weapons were just stones with glow in the dark paint on it while the actual money was spent on some oligarch's house in central London.

I would of course prefer not to find out by having an ICBM coming my way.

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[–] dublet 69 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] dublet 22 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The linked article didn't show a picture of the "proof"...

Aliens

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