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[–] curlygirl 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hot water or putting something with blood on it in a dryer will set the stain and make it near impossible to remove. I use an enzyme cleaner, like the kind for pet odors and it works pretty well. Never tried hydrogen peroxide. Whatever you use, make sure it is applied when the stain is fresh for better results.

[–] curlygirl 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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[–] curlygirl 2 points 1 year ago

Your hair is gorgeous! Both shorter and longer.

[–] curlygirl 1 points 1 year ago

I had a lot of trouble with this site, if I were to direct link to the image then it would be in low resolution and it says I have to link to the website instead of the image for full resolution.

 
  • Scrape test will show you all the buildup on your hair

Premise: scraping hair with scissors will show if there is "buildup" on the hair from silicone.

Experiment: wash two samples of hair twice each with a clarifying shampoo and use a conditioner with silicone on one sample and nothing to the other. Both strands were then scraped with scissors.

Result: lots of white residue came off the silicone treated hair and the sample with no conditioner.

The white residue is actually your cuticles being shredded and this act is super damaging to your strands.

  • Drug store products buildup on hair, premium products don't

All conditioning products leave something behind to plug up the gaps and weaker spots in hair. Hair gets damaged everyday by brushing, washing, sun exposure, hair drying, straightening, and possibly bleach if you use it. So the hair strands initially grow out resistant with flat cuticles (not damaged) then become strands with raised cuticles with holes and gaps in them (damaged). To make the rough hair that has been damaged feel smooth again, conditioners plug up the gaps and some penetrate further inside the hair to make it smoother and stronger.

When hair is wet it gets negatively charged, the positive charge from cationic conditioners stick to the hair and reduces static and makes it smoother. Other conditioning ingredients include polyquaternium polymers, hydrolysed proteins, oils, and silicones. They work the same whether they're in luxury products or drugstore products.

  • Product is bad if it weighs down hair

There are three main factors that determines how much conditioning ingredients will stick to your hair: what the ingredient is, how it's used on your hair (how you use it, how much is in the product, the formula), and what your hair is like. Don't use corase resistant products on fine porous hair, that will cause it to be greasy and stick together. It's like how a product for dry skin might be awful on oily skin.

  • All silicones are the same

If you have enough silicone with a positive charge on your hair, extra silicones won't stick on anymore. Silicones can be heavier or lighter depending on its structure but still have the same name - e.g. dimethicone is a polymer that can be lots of different lengths and have different properties. Longer chains are heavier and thicker, shorter chains are more lightweight and spread more easily. There are lots of different grades, these grades do not mean higher and lower qualities.There's thousands of silicones. Just because you have a bad experience with one silicone doesn't mean that all silicones will react that way.

  • What are your thoughts on these myths?
[–] curlygirl 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I saw a youtuber that would "clap out the crunch" gently instead of scrunching. Thought that was interesting.

I've had the same thing said to me about my hair, when it gets long the weight really weighs it down and my hair goes from coils (bra strap length/bit below shoulders) to waves and spirals (currently at just above my butt). Roots are usually not curly at that point without something to help a little like root clips but the ends get very curly. I remember people telling me during grade school years that my hair isn't naturally curly because the roots are flat. That I must be curling it with an iron. Wtf. People just like to gatekeep.

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Don't use deep conditioner before shampoo. Use something cheap if you do because it is a waste. You should instead do an oil treatment.

Don't cowash if you are not washing more than 2 times a week

Smooth down conditioner rather than scrunching it in

Add water when detangling to help with slip

Deep condition when needed (mostly it is meant for not healthy hair)

Curl training while doing a treatment does not work, waste of time

Don't leave deep conditioner in for more than 30 minutes, waste of time

Use products for your texture and porosity

Prep with primer or leave in conditioner and then style with gel or foam, etc.

Save scrunching for the end

Add water (with spray bottle) before adding each product

Dry hair with (micro fiber) towel gently before air drying or diffusing, especially in high humidity

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[–] curlygirl 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks :) I'm trying my best, this is my first time doing something like this.

[–] curlygirl 2 points 1 year ago

Yes you are very right, I just meant very hard water places might be a struggle. I added a map to the post, most places are hard water! Thanks for the info, I'm glad to have someone making suggestions and corrections and I learn new things from too. There were a lot of variations of maps so I went with the most official one I could find.

And yeah, welshiecurlgirl has very pretty hair. Her hair is fine and I think low-ish hair density but it looks gorgeous. She makes it work! She's studying to be a hairstylist I think.

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[–] curlygirl 1 points 1 year ago

Now that you mention it, it does look like spines lmao

[–] curlygirl 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your hair is very healthy then, whatever you're doing is working! I've heard adding heat from a cap can help penetrate low porosity hair. I bought one earlier in my journey before I realized I didn't need it. It's just a cap with some flaxseeds in it that I would put in for less than 1 minute in the microwave.

My hair is pretty fine, even with gentle care it is still high porosity. Fine hair lacks a medulla and gets beat up easily lol. There's this textbook about hair a lot of people reference and it describes porosity as how damaged hair is. Also hair stylists use a 5 grade system to measure porosity. I wasn't sure if I should go more into it about this since the post is already long. Maybe a part 2 is something I can work on in the future. I think I read somewhere that people think very curly hair is coarse but usually it is fine because of all the kinks, there's just a lot of it.

[–] curlygirl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Like Texas water (at least where my friend lived in San Antonio, I've also visited El Paso) is very hard, difficult for washing hair. I used 10 parts water : 1 part apple cider vinegar when I visited there, my relatives used stronger rinses but since I didn't have the stuff to test for pH I went with a more diluted mixture since I was in a pinch. It was my only time encountering hard water, I was pretty unprepared haha. Where I live the water isn't that hard so I've never had trouble or felt the need for a water softener. All water is going to have some hardness to it ~~unless you have a water softening system~~ [false], it becomes a problem depending on where you live.

I actually agree, I wouldn't personally use the alternatives because you can mess up the pH easily but I thought maybe a no-poo person or someone needing something real fast might want to try it. I would recommend using a chelating shampoo instead, you don't have to worry about the pH and messing up your hair. I should probably make that clearer in the post.

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How porous or absorbent your hair is has a lot to do with how it looks and can help you decide what to use on your hair to help it look it’s best. A porosity is a hole or a gap – an opening.

Hair which is porous [aka high porosity] will take on water and other chemicals easily because of all the tiny openings in the cuticle. Water gets in and out easily.

Hair which is not very porous [aka low porosity] repels water and most other fluids and this is a good thing. Water doesn't get in or out easily.

It's fairly common to have hair that is porous on the ends, but not at the roots.

What causes porosity?

Weathering of hair, mechanical stress [combing, especially brushing, tieing up, rubbing, etc.], wetting and drying, shampooing, chemical treatments, and physical structure of hair. If your hair has waves, curls or (especially) kinks (and wavy hair can be kinky hair too), it is likely to have areas on the strand which are narrow, flattened, twisted or otherwise not as strong. Even the “cuticle armor” cannot protect these areas adequately. These are prone to breakage and damage and therefore become porous easily. Wavy and curly hair is also more prone to damage from daily life simply because it has bends in it.

How to Determine Your Hair's Porosity:

This is something you learn from studying your hair by running your fingers over a hair strand, observing shine or reflectivity, how hydrated your hair feels on a daily basis, and your hair's response to products.

Normal-porous hair: It shines, maybe not quite as much as not-porous hair. It perms and takes color as expected. Your hair can be normal-porous even if you use some heat on your hair (low-heat diffusers). Normal-porous hair does not become oily-looking with reasonable amounts of conditioners or oils. Normal-porous hair may have times when it feels a bit dry, or not dry at all and it is easy to make it feel "not dry" and soft with hair conditioner and gentle care. You perceive some "soaking in" of hair products. You probably have had some exposure to the full sun, possibly chlorinated swimming pools. Your hair may be not-porous near the roots and normal-porous further down and therefore respond differently to conditioners in those two areas, which is why many people condition their hair from the ears, down. If you run your fingers up and down an individual hair, it feels mostly smooth. This normal-porous hair has cuticle scales which look like shingles on a roof. They overlap and don't stick up much.

Porous hair: If you run your fingers up and down a hair strand, it may feel bumpy and uneven due to kinking, or to damage. Quite porous hair does not shine much and though it may have some gloss, it's not "reflective" or brightly shiny. It will seem to absorb hair products of any kind, tends to feel dry most of the time and you have a difficult time getting it to feel soft and pliable. Porous hair usually takes on dye, permanent waves and chemical straightening quickly. And loses dye quickly. Porous hair loses moisture easily.

Maintain Porosity:

Avoid too much handling, tight ponytail holders, excess heat (curling or straightening irons, blowdryers without a diffuser), prolonged exposure to sunlight, chemical treatments (permanent waves or chemical relaxers), and bleaching or permanent haircoloring. Don’t rub your hair roughly with towels, tie it up tightly every day, use metal barrettes with sharp edges. Avoid brushing or combing vigorously and with force. Do detangle with care, don’t wash hair every day, use dilute shampoos or mild shampoos.

Taken from:

https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/porosity-in-hair.html

https://science-yhairblog.blogspot.com/2012/06/hair-porosity-how-to-measure-sort-of.html

 
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I recommend using a chelating shampoo instead of the listed alternatives, it is easy to mess up hair if you don't have the proper pH. A chelating shampoo will be the proper pH and is effective.

Taken from:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkZHgkDIM-6

The showerstik is the only shower head that can actually filter out the minerals that I know of, regular shower heads can help remove chlorine but will not make water soft.

Hardness prevents soap from lathering by causing the development of an insoluble curdy precipitate in the water; hardness typically causes the buildup of hardness scale (such as seen in cooking pans). Dissolved calcium and magnesium salts are primarily responsible for most scaling in pipes and water heaters and cause numerous problems in laundry, kitchen, and bath.

Symptoms of Hard Water include:

  • Stiff, dingy laundry

  • Mineral deposits on dishes and glassware

  • High soap usage & need for fabric softeners

  • Extra work to remove soap curd on bathtubs & shower stalls

  • High energy costs, possibly due to scale build-up in pipes and on appliances

  • Scale build up in sinks, tubs, faucets & appliances

Taken from:

https://wqa.org/Learn-About-Water/Perceptible-Issues/Scale-Deposits/

Map of Hard Water in the USA (USGS):

General guidelines for classification of waters are:

  • 0 to 60 mg/L (milligrams per liter) as calcium carbonate is classified as soft

  • 61 to 120 mg/L as moderately hard

  • 121 to 180 mg/L as hard

  • More than 180 mg/L as very hard.

Taken from:

https://www.usgs.gov/special-topics/water-science-school/science/hardness-water#overview

 

I just want to preface this one by saying everyone's hair is different, you may need to clarify more often or shampoo more often or maybe your hair is too fine to deep condition, etc. These are just general tips and not rules you have to follow. I think 4 and 5 apply to everyone better.

Taken from:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CqX6w7susJg

 

I've been mostly posting whatever interesting/amusing thing I come across. Vote in the comments to guide what I should post more of, feel free to suggest something else I have not listed.

 

Artist is @cassandracalin

 

I am doing a very modified curly girl method, I'm not sure if I can still call it CGM at this point lol. I stay away from harsh shampoos and clarify regularly with Sodium C14-16 Olefin Sulfonate. I use products without silicones but it isn't a big deal to me if a product I want has silicone e.g. a heat protectant. I blow dry my hair with a diffuser on low heat, always using a heat protectant. I tend to stay away from products, like hairsprays, that have drying alcohols in them but I'm learning they may not be all that bad. I use wide tooth combs and a tangle teezer.

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