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I do think there is a point to make here. Ukrainians should be free to leave their country if they want.

But you still support Zelensky's regime that makes it impossible, don't you? :/
You might not believe me, but if Zelensky didn't turn Ukraine into his ~~small~~ huge North Korea where trapped people are kidnapped from the streets and sent to the meatgrinder - I'd be donating money to my country every month. But Zelensky made sure to make this impossible - supporting his regime is supporting trapping innocent people in a war-torn country with missiles/drones/shells flying over them. People afraid of leaving their homes because "recruitment officers" can kidnap them them and send to die. People try to escape this hell, and die trying to "illegally" cross the border through rivers/mountains. Zelensky made sure to become our enemy #1.

But anyway, I strongly disagree with your view that Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine is "liberating" anything or anyone.

But how is this not a liberation? Quote from a dictionary:

To set free, as from oppression, confinement, or foreign control.

People on the liberated territories are not confined and can leave at any time. People on Zelensky controlled territories quite literally cannot leave. You can argue that it wasn't started as liberation. But it is now, unless my dictionary is wrong about the definition of word "liberate". It didn't have to be, but thanks to Zelensky it is.

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй

Да, хорошую историю с нашими "героями" которые якобы предпочли умереть чем сдаться русским форсили тогда в новостях.. Потом правда оказалось что они таки все сдались, и даже в википедии на понятном для тебя языке это описано, но история то какая ;)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_warship,_go_fuck_yourself

Anyway, calling me Ivan (a Slavic, not a Russian name) and writing to me in Russian to allege that I'm Russian is incredibly stupid... You do know that Ukraine (except the western part of it) speaks (or rather speaked, until the war and introduction of "language-police" in some cities...) Russian a lot, and especially so in cities? I've heard very little Ukrainian on the streets back when I lived in Ukraine :)

Anyway, you do not seem to be interested in having a discussion or changing your mind :(

Liberated? Go and fuck yourself, Russian troll.

Well, I didn't expect a better answer :)

Is it better to be drafted now, or wait until Putin has another territory to "liberate"

Are you absolutely seriously asking whether it is better to almost cetrainly die now, or have a chance of dying in some hypothetical situation later? I'll choose the latter every single time, thank you..

Is it suddenly ok when it's Russia drafting "free" Ukrainians from those "liberated" territories?

No, it's also not OK. It doesn't happen on even remotely similar scale to what Zelensky is doing.

Are the kidnapped children free now? Happy? Doubtful.

Probably not.
At least they are alive in contrast to all the men Zelensky's regime kidnapped and sent to die.

Living there, it seems like you live your normal life. But you can’t express your thoughts, there are topics you can’t discuss, you can’t go where you want. You live like a spider in a jar. You are kept inside, and you run in circles like horses in a circus ring. Those who expect Ukraine to save us are having a hard time. It’s hard on morale. You’re not allowed to speak about Ukraine; Ukrainian symbols are banned. If you hear something, or say something they think is wrong, they grab you and put you in a basement.

So, the same as in Ukraine, but without the kidnappings and with an ability to leave at any time.

They don't have a choice. It is this or being Russian slaves.

Hey, thank you for your insightful comment!

Could you please expand on that and tell me more about people in Crimea and other liberated cities being Russian slaves?

Also while you are at it - could you please also explain to me how being unable to leave your country where you can be kidnapped on a street at any day and sent to die is not considered slavery / is better than "being Russian slave"? How did that happen that "Russian slaves" can move to Ukraine controlled territories at any time and supposedly stop being slaves, but those who are on Ukraine controlled territories cannot do the opposite (and yet for some reason you wouldn't consider them slaves)?

Because you know, the thousand day invasion threatening their existence.

Whose existence?
Seriously, what kind of mental gymnastics one needs to do to consider this a valid argument..
Show me, how is the existence of people on liberated territories (like Crimea, Melitopol and so on) are threatened?
Or maybe those people are actually okay (well, at least relatively to those of us who are still stuck on Zelensky controlled territories...) and it's the lives of those whom Zelensky can still reach are threatened, because his regime can kidnap them at any moment and send to the meatgrinder?

The only "fight for survival" is against Zelensky.