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[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Honestly, it could be centralized for sure! Though I was also thinking more of just handing them a list of links to distribute on their own pages.

I think for most communities the first step is probably to have any sort of website (even a super basic HTML one) self-hosted outside the US for their members to bookmark. Even if they don't migrate until a ban, their members can at least visit the site and see where the mods decided everyone should internet-meet up.

If they then wanted to link a list of additional backup resources, that could help spread by word of mouth where to go if other resources are down. I'm basically thinking some members will get lost and isolated if one day their main safe spaces vanish & we should try to limit that problem so long we have time on our side.

re:LLMs it's an interesting idea IF you use an open weight model and take steps you're not sharing the data with tech companies. I don't for example think we want to help ChatGPT find out where all the trans.

But it is certainly possible to do a RAG LLM system IF you use an open weight model AND you have a dataset of trans resources! I've done these things before and don't consider it too hard. You do need to have the dataset already compiled which can be a fair amount of work to begin with—after that it's straightforward.

Right now there are efforts to back up a lot of resources in trans spaces that might go dark. I could see it being nice to for example convert the wikis and subreddit dumps into chatbots you can ask questions and get back answers with citations to where the info comes from.

It could help solve some of the issues faced by people e.g. not checking the wiki and then being confused...

EDIT: the more I think about it that's a great idea and I'm adding it to my backlog. I could do it myself, don't have much time, but could definitely advise on it and maaaybe pull in some real life contacts who do it as their career. Let me know if the LLM thing is a project you want to work on & I'll try to facilitate

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

I think Canada, Mexico, & EU should coordinate so that a tariff on any of us is a tariff on all of us. Hit back dollar for dollar on any tariff affecting any of our economies.

 

Hi all! I wanted to open the floor for a discussion that's been on my mind lately & perhaps hear from others who are also curious about this problem

I think in online trans communities traditionally there has been a social barrier (moderation) but not a technical barrier (hosting/admin/etc).

What that means is that most communities have been run by one or two very burnt out moderators who stepped up to solve a social issue and don't know how to deal with the more technical side. This has worked—just barely—so far.

However I think in the long run this won't be sustainable. A community no longer needs someone to overcome the social barrier but now also the technical barrier AND explain to those solving the social barrier stuff why it's trustworthy. So we need to come up with ways to support them.

I think what @[email protected] is doing here is an invaluable piece of that puzzle. It gives those leaders a spot to land if they have nobody able to help them with self-hosting. But it's also scary for some communities, they don't know who to trust, and would benefit from a more tech-savvy trusted member in their group feeling empowered to learn, maybe set up a server themselves, evangelize a bit, offer reassurance they're committed to ensuring if blahaj goes down the community won't be screwed.

Something else I've noticed is that most communities do not have self-hosted landing pages either. Like a website that their community members can bookmark in case their community goes dark, where the admins can post information about where to meet up online next time. What I've been saying as a message is "yes most members won't bother bookmarking it, but a few will, and those users will be conscientious members who are more likely to spread the word so you limit your losses."

I think it could perhaps be a good project to work on, say, a template for a self-hosted page with a whole bunch of trans self-hosted resources, trans fediverse communities, etc. collated so a community admin can copy-paste. It might encourage more of their members to bookmark it and begin using those resources casually. Of course, reaching out to the communities you are apart of outside the fediverse and offering to help sort out hosting a landing page is also a great asset especially if you're trusted/respected by the mods of those communities.

Anyway, these are all just thoughts at the moment, please feel free to chime in!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Yeah I do feel the same. I'm a person who works in tech but doesn't usually set up servers. Even though it's not my first rodeo it's not exactly easy—it's a project. And I did get stuck on a bug setting up a Lemmy server that I need to peek at again maybe tomorrow or on the weekend.

That said I have some thoughts on this from talking to people. I think I'll make a quick post about it because I think it's a worthwhile discussion.

EDIT: I posted it here https://mlmym.lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21922852

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

So this is a kinda interesting thing. I've had two people in my networks who expressed hesitation because of UX. One was excited to find out that her fav 3rd party apps moved here. The other was excited to find old reddit.

I genuinely think a lot of people feel new Reddit is just enshittification they don't need or want.

I had a few questions though, if you don't mind me picking your brain!

  • How does this old Reddit cloning work? Is it something each instance can decide to host, or is it native to Lemmy?
  • If it's tied to a specific instance, how do you know that this option exists? Is there a general way to find out specifics like this that I can point people to? It looks like it's listed in this instances sidebar. Is that how it usually works on most instances?

I'll pass the info along to at least one person!

 

Someone in my network had the following question I don't know how to help them with and neither does anyone in our group:

tech friends! can anyone explain to my layman ass what a “MIC link” is gut check is that it’s a site that can only be accessed w/ a secure browser like TOR, but i am truly unsure is that, like, a site that can only be accessed thru a browser like TOR or

If anyone thinks they might have an idea what it is and could explain in simple-ish terms that'd be a big help and could perhaps be collated to share with others in the future!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don’t know about the average person but certainly enough people yes! But most don’t try unless they have a bit of encouragement and community

I’m actually surprised at how many people will say they think Lemmy is unuseable. I have found that instead of explaining the fediverse they respond better to “it’s Reddit but better because it’s not beholden to any company or country” or something similar

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TransTechDIY: A concept (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

The premise is simple: we're all better off in a world where trans people know how to build our own technologies to suit the needs of our communities. Trans people are better off when we are well-connected and are able to DIY. And it's now more than ever important for us to learn how to DIY our tech the same way so many of us have DIY'd our hormones.

The most immediate threat I think many online trans communities are currently facing is deplatforming. Many have been lulled into a sense of dependency by large tech companies. Self-hosting seems like all too overwhelming, the fediverse seems overwhelming, the UIs are overwhelming, archiving data seems overwhelming, starting from scratch and building communities on new instances seems overwhelming, helping users who are less tech literate migrate to safe platforms seems overwhelming.

I would like to suggest this is a problem we can resolve. I think we could start small, and we could just share with each other various problems we see in our communities when it comes to technology—barriers to entry, designs that simply do not work, etc.—and the solutions we've found to help resolve them for each other.

Alternatively, if you're having a problem or facing resistance getting people onboarded in your communities—post about it! Let's have a chat. Maybe someone knows a matrix room you should be apart of. Maybe someone has dealt with a particular type of user apathy in a Discord they've modded & can provide some hard won lessons learned.

In the long run, I think this information could be collated into a wiki resource of sorts. Of course not trying to replace the many many resources out there for learning individual technologies. But more like a landing page for the trans community to get started fixing common problems.

However, I am of course still working on learning myself, so I think if this community grows it will be a function of who shows up and where things go.

Feel free to discuss or share feedback, it's just an idea at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I don’t know if you’re in contact with [email protected] (or HiddenStill on Reddit) but she’s also a great person to consult with as things grow over here, although I doubt she’ll want to mod

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I do not want to mod but I do want to help by sharing my comments on posts and such. I've spent a lot of time on the other sub and think it's an amazing resource but am moving to the fediverse.

I went to Dr. Bank a few years ago. Can maybe write up some info or offer to answer questions anybody has. Also booked for Jumaily this year.

Thanks for making this space. I really don't want to be a mod in any way and so was reluctant to make it. I'd rather build things for people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Nice to see the EU joining in

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

This is so encouraging imo thank you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Yes this was basically exactly what I was thinking! It's very reassuring to hear that could be possible in the real world and not just in my head :D

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Okay that's rad. I'd been privately thinking of something similar to that myself but I'm new to the fediverse and didn't know whether it was possible. If it's like what I'm thinking you're suggesting that would solve a HUGE issue in our community for balancing visibility (to help others and give information) with privacy (to support each other and avoid bigots). Centralized social media/messaging platforms have never prioritized this need in their design so we are always switching between apps to fulfill either function.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Woohoo thanks! Hope you're having a lovely holiday

 

Cross posting this here for visibility as it's easy to not see the edit. They are adding thoughts and resources to the post as they evolve so maybe keep an eye out for future edits.

I think the questions they have are very reasonable & they have welcomed cis people to discuss on the post (but not elsewhere on the subreddit)

I'm new to Lemmy and doing what I can. Long time member of the subreddit. Maybe some of you all are better than me at discussing these topics with them?

Thank you all for your help so far 🫶

 

Hi all,

I’m a Reddit refugee and I’m wondering if we could consider mirroring subs like r/Transgender_Surgeries, r/TransDIY and r/estrogel here (or if not maybe another instance)

If you’re not aware Reddit has made it clear they will probably deploy tools to shut these subreddits down in the nearish future. This has lead us to start looking elsewhere and personally I’m in favour of getting people into the fediverse.

It seems obvious to me the main issue we have with getting people onto the fediverse is momentum. In light of that do you think that we could mirror some of the content from those subs here? Maybe also if we have a bot like this one to seed the content https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/21662525

I for one would be happy to start encouraging people to move here by regularly posting my responses to people’s questions on here with info I know on Lemmy and then linking to my response in the subreddit so they take a peek.

I’ve been researching surgeries for well over half a decade by now and have some surgeries myself so I think people will come if people like me start putting valuable content here.

My issue here is I’m new to the fediverse and probably not the best to take something like this up. I also am working on learning how to set up my own server for the first time and ultimately help others in my network around the world do the same so idk if I’m the best to lead that type of initiative.

It does seem we need someone though and the leader of the Transgender_Surgeries subreddit is too burned out to migrate it (understandably so)

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