Leviathan

I like throwing these in on purpose, p as in pterodactyl often gets a chuckle.

For the layperson you have to do the "[letter] as in [phonetic alphabet equivalent]" format. Most people will understandably get confused if they ask how to spell your name and you tell them "Alpha-November-Delta-Yankee". If they're not used to it or never heard it it'll sound like you just started having a stroke.

100% agree. I often have fun with customer service or whatever coming up with fun words.

Yeah also I grew up in a world that was much more openly racist than the one of today so I'll catch myself having stereotyping intrusive thoughts about dumb stuff people will do and I'll be like, "no x type of person isn't the only type that cuts you off in traffic, dumbass". I don't think that's a belief though.

Just like I don't think that having intrusive thoughts about jumping off a ledge means your suicidal.

if it's either/or then it's 99+% of the population failing the test. If that's the line, there's an honesty to it.

I wouldn't go as far as 99+ but yes, many people have beliefs that put them in that boat. I wasn't even excluding you or I.

I think that when it comes to race there's only a binary possibility.

Your parents held a belief that mixing races was wrong. What was at the root of that belief? Some races are inherently not good enough or clean enough for their family, children or grandchildren. That is the very definition of racism. Your parents were racists, just not on the level of a clan member. There can be varying degrees of racism, but you either hold racist beliefs or you don't.

That's the crux of the argument here;

• I think that if you hold racist beliefs you are racist

• You think that a non-racist can hold racist beliefs.

I would love to hear an argument that changes my mind but so far I haven't heard one.

I'm not the right person to be arguing tactics with, that wasn't my point. I just pointed out a fallacy in your argument since you did so in theirs, in the spirit of equality.

That being said I do think there's room for all kinds of relativism in our society, but I don't think you can apply relativism to racism. You either believe someone is a complete human just like yourself even if they happen to have more or less melanin - or you don't believe that. There is no halfway point.

Now you can use your persuasion tactic of choice to walk people to that conclusion, but I believe that anything short of that is still racism and exclusion but with caveats.

I'm only slightly kidding when I say:

The Olympics are happening this year? I feel like I'm usually really in the loop for these things.

Some things were great for a very specific group of people. Most things sucked for everyone else.

That's not identifying with both that's just adhering to a slightly different cultural norm.

And the fallacy your employing in the false equivalence. Just because your parents had the benevolence to allow different colored people into their public places and history lessons doesn't mean they see them as equals.

The definition of racism is the belief that one race is inherently better than another. Good enough to share spaces and history books but not to mix blood doesn't scream "we are all humans and equals".

So it's not a far leap to assume that your parent only accepts other races as far as their society of context has gone.

So it's not a huge leap to assume which side of the photo they would've been on if their society of context was the one from the photo.

Obviously your parent would've been sitting at the table in defiance of that society's cultural norms, defending their personal beliefs

...right?

Describe the groups.