KombatWombat

Yeah no problem. It's always nice to be able to discuss something with others and be respectful even if you don't fully agree.

I understand where the protesters are coming from and the idea that doing anything sounds better than just allowing the world to deteriorate. But I genuinely believe the less dramatic strategies do work better, even if it's hard to feel the effects. Not too long ago, the idea that the climate change was happening and that humans were to blame was largely ignored. Now, most people acknowledge that it's the case, and it's a matter of making it a priority. But that's still meaningful progress.

Anyways, thanks for the conversation and being open to push back. It's great to see in spaces that seem more divisive than ever.

Agreed that both parties look bad here. Blackbeard was needlessly condescending from the onset and FlyingSquid's victim complex escalated things quickly for no reason. Blackbeard was pretty bad at communicating, but I think the calm down messages were meant to reinforce that they needed more time to respond to messages and that the idea that FlyingSquid was going to be banned or not allowed to post was apropos of nothing.

Blackbeard should have asked FlyingSquid to clarify where the misinformation was. Unless you are trying to take the comment literally, the comment essentially says "each candidate's actions resemble those of these despised historical figures" which is too abstract to be falsifiable. Then they should have said that FlyingSquid and anyone else is welcome on the community until they show themselves as a bad actor, and that this was just a misunderstanding. And creating false reports could be rule-breaking in the sense of being spam if it's clearly malicious.

There's plenty of blame to go around.

First of all, it's your vote and it's up to you to cast it (or not) as you see fit. Anyone saying you have an obligation to use it a certain way is violating fundamental democratic values. But other people likewise have the right to judge your decision.

I would say not voting for one of the main parties would show them that the distinction between them doesn't matter, and so their leadership does not need to be more or less radical to cater to you. And not voting for even a third party shows that effectively no one can meet your standards, so policymakers can entirely ignore whatever it is you care about.

Protesting with your vote, like all protests, only works when your actions actually motivate the intended recipients to act as you want them to. Otherwise, it's just performative self-indulgence.

The problem is that it doesn't help their cause in the least. If anything, it damages it. To onlookers, it makes supporters of the cause look crazy and makes them easier to dismiss by opposition.

Climate change is a very serious problem that requires billions of people working together to solve. Culturally significant objects being vandalised is a much less serious problem but it also only requires a few individuals to not do what they have done to become a non-issue.

By all means, protest polluters, badger policymakers, and argue in forums. But if you start being annoying to people equally as powerless to effect meaningful change you're only going to make people less likely to listen to you.

Sure, nice talking to you

Pretty silly to miss that to be honest

I do the same, but I think they were asking for people who can't pay it off. Those are absurd rates.

Fair enough.

Wow! Hosting terrorists on your stream is so perfect! So is blasting propaganda music with flags saying "death to the jews" on them!

The "hosting terrorists" part would be referring to the ~~Houthi soldier~~ Yemeni he interviewed on stream. I personally don't have a problem with having controversial people on for stuff like interviews but the problem was more that Hasan was trying to make him seem more appealing and only giving him soft-balls.

• The Houthi guy was talking about guarding captured foreign merchant ship crews and making them dance and Hasan was talking about how much fun that must have been.
• Hasan later cut him off and redirected when he started talking about how the knife on the shelf behind him can't be sheathed until tasting blood.
• Hasan ran out of prepared questions pretty quickly so he started asking him about what his favorite anime was and what fast food they had available there. He was just generally trying to make him seem relatable.
• Someone in chat wanted Hasan to ask about if they would release the hostages if peace or a ceasefire was negotiated and Hasan something like "I'm not asking him that, of course he would".
• He later described it as "like talking to Anne Frank".

The "blasting propaganda music" refers to him showing a Yemeni propaganda music video on stream to a guest and viewers. The lyrics were mainly about all the weapons and war supplies they wanted, and what they would use them for. It honestly was just bizarre and left everyone confused since there wasn't really context for showing it.

I love how people (rightfully) called out Pewdiepie for jokingly paying guys to put "death to jews" on a sign, but when hasan does it unironically its okay

Not sure if the "Death to Jews" thing is referring to something specific or just that Hamas is very vocally anti-Israel.

Yeah maybe you're right about Kamala's unpopularity being reflected on Democratic congressional candidates. Everyone's quick to point fingers about why the election results are the way they are (myself included of course), but it's honestly hard to say which factor had the most impact.

And I feel the same way about the electoral + popular vote thing. If the Democrats are going to lose anyway, a convincing defeat can at least be a wake up call for change. And this way we don't have to worry (much) about people claiming it was rigged.

That sucks, but good on you for looking out for others. What community was it? If you want to call out bad mods, you could make a post on yepowertrippinbastards or fediverselore. Besides letting others know about the injustice, hearing about the drama can be very entertaining.