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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The GPDR doesn't require Lemmy to remove personal data from the entire internet. But when a Lemmy instance gives data to other Lemmy instance, there are legal responsibilities.

https://gdpr-info.eu/art-17-gdpr/ Where the controller has made the personal data public and is obliged pursuant to paragraph 1 to erase the personal data, the controller, taking account of available technology and the cost of implementation, shall take reasonable steps, including technical measures, to inform controllers which are processing the personal data that the data subject has requested the erasure by such controllers of any links to, or copy or replication of, those personal data.

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Maybe this is open to interpretation, but I feel that the same Federation protocol that federates out my personal data (my posts and comments), should also federate out my delete requests. I'm unsure why this would be controversial.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Archive.org (wayback machine) has a request page for removal. I don't have any knowledge of how they do it.

https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-request-to-remove-something-from-archive-org/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh my, you are correct. Images are being federated some of the time.

Like most everything else, the intended behavior isn't documented anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I checked Mastodon briefly. It appears they are currently not in compliance. There are open issues on GitHub, but nothing looks close.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The CCPA (USA version) and GDPR (EU) both specify Personal Data, not Personally Identifiable Information. So the contents of my posts are my personal data, even if my username doesn't identify to a real person. If I want my personal data removed from Lemmy, the GDPR allows for me to request it to be deleted.

Lemmy is still in the early stages. I'm not asking for changes to be made right away, or even this year. But I do feel that my personal data should be under my control. Lemmy should be programmed to federate out the the deletion of all my personal data, if I make such a request.

Where the controller has made the personal data public and is obliged pursuant to paragraph 1 to erase the personal data, the controller, taking account of available technology and the cost of implementation, shall take reasonable steps, including technical measures, to inform controllers which are processing the personal data that the data subject has requested the erasure by such controllers of any links to, or copy or replication of, those personal data

(*) Note the CCPA has a ton of exceptions, and only really applies to the larger social media sites.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Wouldn't it be easier to fix the delete federation bug so Lemmy could comply with GDPR ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are those times milliseconds?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Media isn't federated. The media should just be referenced with a link to the original source.

Normally, the largest use of disk space is the Activity table. It is stored for six months, and only useful for debugging. Below is the Issue, along with SQL commands to check and purge this debugging table. Let us know if this was the issue

https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3103

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The law specifically names "online identifier".

The data subjects are identifiable if they can be directly or indirectly identified, especially by reference to an identifier such as a name, an identification number, location data, an online identifier or one of several special characteristics, which expresses the physical, physiological, genetic, mental, commercial, cultural or social identity of these natural persons. In practice, these also include all data which are or can be assigned to a person in any kind of way. For example, the telephone, credit card or personnel number of a person, account data, number plate, appearance, customer number or address are all personal data.

https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/personal-data/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just say, we don’t provide or target EU individuals and you’re free.

Don't allow users from the EU to sign up? Is that your plan?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

See https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/right-to-be-forgotten/

Once the "controller has made the personal data public", they have legal obligations. Gmail doesn't make my data public, generally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

See https://gdpr-info.eu/issues/right-to-be-forgotten/

Once the "controller has made the personal data public", they have legal obligations. When you send an email, you are not making it public.

 

I created a post

I deleted the post. It removed it from lemm.ee, but the post remains on the other two sites. Let me make another test.

 

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Post created from lemm.ee

 

testing, will delete after federation

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