Eldritch

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[–] Eldritch 7 points 1 week ago

The order was not meant to be significant. And purely just a construct of a stream of consciousness speech to text. Though you aren't wrong.

[–] Eldritch -2 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No they literally don't. They owe the people who largely Finance the party. And they deliver for those people. While voters every 4 years break records for small donations in presidential elections. Every year in between we do a whole lot of nothing in general for them. Then we childishly wine and throw a tantrum when the president that we held our nose to elect does not have support in the House and Senate to actually get anything done for us. It's not in every 4-year thing. It's a multiple times a year thing. It's a showing up enough to change the course of the primaries and seeing them through the general thing. And running the people we would like to see thing. If we all just sit around and take whatever they'll give. That's on us.

[–] Eldritch -2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Yours is the first mention of anyone owing anyone anything. But let's phrase it this way. If we don't owe them anything. Then they also don't owe us anything. Therefore it's ridiculous and hypocritical to complain that they didn't deliver on XYZ for us. They didn't owe it to us.

All I was implying was solidarity. If we the voting population are so ignorant as to not know the difference between abject fascism. And people who, while they don't excite us. Don't propose a massive slide into authoritarianism and brutal repression. Or cannot feel obliged to do whatever possible to keep fascists from the levers of power. That is absolutely on us. I didn't vote for harris. I voted against trump. Unfortunately for more people than should be acceptable wanted fascism. Or at least didn't find it motivating enough to hold their nose and vote. Which again is on us. If we want Democrats to do better. We also need to do better.

[–] Eldritch -1 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Well I'm not here to defend liberals. They're generally useless. Not an actual solution to any existing problems. But in this case there was simple well documented precedence.

When it comes to stopping fascism. We the voting population share a significant part of the blame ourselves. Democrats ran an abjectly horrible campaign, its true. But when they're torn between two opposing pillars of power. Disaster was always on the menu. We "can" vote them in to power. Buy we aren't reliable about it, and can't provide funding for messaging and outreach the way wealthy oligarchs can. We used to be able to do it. But that was before Reagan broke the unions.

[–] Eldritch 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Hardly. Lennonism still exists. It's highly similar. In fact Lenin and Stalin helped Hitler invaded Poland. And exterminated their own ethnic polish population in Russia. Leninists still defend these actions to this day and hypocritically criticize "the west".

[–] Eldritch -1 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Trump already pardoned his son-in-law's father. There's not even a precedence here to be set. Now I suppose there could be the worry of normalizing an already bad precedent. But Republicans have always sought to overturn or counter precedence And never cared about normalization beforehand period They have the media to normalize it for them after the fact Period

[–] Eldritch 11 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Only if you have a juvenile concept of political Spectrum. That only extends across one dimension. Leninists are barely nominally left-wing. In practice most of them are State capitalist and not at all left wing.

In practice social Democrats and even Democratic socialists tend to be more left-leaning than leninists. And don't feel a reactionary need to Slaughter or imprison those that disagree with them regularly. I mean if we are going by the providing social benefit to your chosen class of people qualifies a socialism. Then that would make the Nazis socialist. Which they most definitely we're not.

[–] Eldritch 10 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No server is. All of them are imperfect. However world is better than hex or grad. It is a simple fact. Regardless of whether you like it. Granted it is a low bar. Being heavily devoted to a heavily disproven ideology sort of puts you on the back foot to start with. But leninists have never let that stop them. But we absolutely do get a mix here on world since it isn't an echo chamber. Leninists and fascists alike.

[–] Eldritch 37 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Authoritarians are authoritarian first. Left or right is an afterthought. No horseshoes required.

[–] Eldritch 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Certain authoritarian ideologies and well, ideologies in general. Depend on rejecting ideas and evidence. Ideologies are ideal, but not real. So it tends to devolve into shouting and name calling. Leninists hypocritically haranguing liberals and vice versa etc.

I would definitely be down for some anarco communism. But I think it's offensive to repeat the misnomer that ML is communism. Or ever has, ever will lead to communism. Anyone who looks to enact change through brutal, murderous suppression via a vanguard party. Could hardly exude a more juvenile thinking vibe. That "it's okay/good when we do it" BS.

[–] Eldritch 2 points 1 week ago

I must have misremembered lemmygrad then. Same difference. I've encountered hexbears on other servers. It's one of many reasons I don't log into Midwest.social for instance. Well more that their hardware is overloaded. But federation with grad and hex is still a good reason.

[–] Eldritch 31 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Thankfully those of us on world have not had to deal with them for the better part of a year. There's so much wrong there it's kind of hard to know where to begin.

All I will really say for now is that they are perfect anti advocates for the things at the surface level they advocate for.

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