You wrote vegans, not peta. Most vegans have nothing to do with Peta.
DarthFrodo
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Who kills a shitload of dogs? I think you replied to the wrong comment.
Would you also consider it preachy when people criticize other cases of animal harm, like bullfighting or dog beating, or is it just the financing of factory farming that can't be criticized? If not, what's the difference? It's troublesome that people enforce a social stigma that you can't talk about what we do to farm animals without suffering social consequences.
You're really the personification of the word pedantic. I changed my poorly formulated sentence.
It's your argument put in another way
soybeans are grown for nutrient fixation in rotation with corn. they're more of a soil crop than an oil crop.
I've already addressed that argument above.
Among the cereals, the most prominent as a source of energy is corn. Between 70% and 80% of its production is used as a feed ingredient worldwide.
https://www.veterinariadigital.com/en/articulos/importance-of-corn-in-animal-production/
"We need animal agriculture because we need to grow the feed plants to grow more feed plants for animal agriculture"
We've come full circle.
If the rest of the plant would be wasted, it would be more economical to just grow another plant that's more efficient for oil production (canola, sunflower), not soybeans which are incidentally the crop highest in protein.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/area-per-tonne-oil
It's not grown in such quantities because it's essential but simply because there's demand for the extra protein from factory farms right now.
in order to extract that much oil, we must press about 85% of the global crop of soybeans. the vast majority if the soy fed to livestock is the industrial waste from that process.
I've already told you that we can produce plant-based meat or soy protein for other uses from that, which you conceded, and you still call it "industrial waste". Why are you knowingly spreading misinformation?
Sorry that you met condescending assholes. Some people just have the urge to feel superior over others for absolutely silly reasons. The rise of meat alternatives is one of the few things that make me optimistic for the future, along with renewable energy, electric cars and heat pumps. Factory farms are so much worse for the environment and animals, of course we should embrace alternatives to the worst option.
Prices also go down with more competition. There basically wasn't any market for meat alternatives 10 years ago, now it's growing quite fast. In 5 years, many of them will likely be cheaper than meat.