Copernican

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[–] Copernican 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What do you mean by "the point"? Anything that doesnt fit the preferred narrative is just not the point or arbitrary?

The star wars analogy is what I responded to. What was the point of that.

[–] Copernican 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I'm not making a both sides argument about history. I'm making a both sides observations about personal experience and belief. Individuals on both side have experienced things that compel them to feel justified in war at a personal psychological and biographical level. Collectively, at a sociological level too. Explanation/description and justification are not the same thing, and I am merely trying to explain that no side thinks they are the bad guys, and both sides think they have justification. If you want to explain "why" israel goes to war it's not useful to describe them as a maniacal bond villain or one dimensional like a Marvel Villain.

I think the conflation of justification vs understanding, description, explanation, is preventing us from having meaningul discourse. When Hannah Arendt wrote "The Origins of Totalitarianism" it wasn't a justification for the the holocaust. It was a description of the rationality that lead to the holocaust. Just because you can attempt to understand evil doesn't mean you are promoting or justifying it. Today, merely suggesting that Israeli's suffered and had had experienced a sense of duty to rescue hostages is somehow interpreted as an argument for genocide and will somehow cause someone to be accused of being a zionist or some other inflammatory rhetorical pejorative.

[–] Copernican 0 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Both sides think they're the good guys with something to avenge. And both sides probably do have that.

[–] Copernican 13 points 7 months ago

People who think this doesn't or won't do anything are completely overlooking the advertising revenue impact. If social media must carry these warning labels, that devalues the ad space they sell. Does coca cola, Ford, etc. really want their ads to show up on content with these warning labels? Will they be getting a discount on ad space because it's better to deliver ads to users on platforms that don't have this warning?

[–] Copernican 2 points 7 months ago

Obviously. I'm Lemmy and against that. But there are dominant pov's on Lemmy that saturate threads and are reflected in up votes and down votes

[–] Copernican 1 points 7 months ago

That I'm pro this. That is the point. I can be pro something that is already the law and be pro things that increase the automation of it.

[–] Copernican 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I agree with all these things. But I dont understand the hail corporate mentality of being upset or knee jerk defending steam. I'm curious to see where the suit goes and evaluate if I should consider joining a class action suit as I learn more.

[–] Copernican 13 points 7 months ago (4 children)

I'm for this. Don't vote for war mongers when you or your kids or grandkids could be drafted for war.

[–] Copernican -2 points 7 months ago (10 children)

How is Lemmy so anti corporate, but bends over backwards to defend steam as an immaculate corporation. I love steam, and 90% of my game purchases or from their store. 5% are from stores that let me redeem steam keys.

I think their market position should have some scrutiny.

[–] Copernican 10 points 7 months ago

Well I think Karl Marx agrees on some way. But when you are BFFs with Engels and enjoy Fox Hunts as a pass time, are you eating the rich or just saying everyone should eat like the rich?

[–] Copernican 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The Atlantic ran a great cover story on this propaganda war the west is facing. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2024/06/china-russia-republican-party-relations/678271/

It's interesting how the propaganda and fake news takes a few hops in other continents before being pushed into Western media.

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