CasualPenguin

I know that was a lot to write so I want to acknowledge I read it all, appreciate the effort.

The existence and interactions of your group of activists is fascinating, I admit I lean towards radical inclusivity so it sounds a bit wild to me, but I also get and respect how difficult it is to maintain group cultures and where exclusivity is necessary and productive.

I fully agree that there will likely be some unity under Trump out of necessity and that it will unfortunately probably be temporary (can't help but think about Biden getting the most votes ever being strong evidence towards that)

Not much follow up except to say you seem like a good person, hope whatever influence you seek is supported.

Stop being so defensive and whingy, I'm asking him to make a statement resembling a point so I can engage.

Well said, and I didn't intend to say you are tearing down anyone.

The only relevancy to you is your statement about organizing I think is very important, but the blocker imo is that complex issues require working together in ambiguity and I'm seeing less evidence than ever that progressives who very much agree on what a problem is, and most of the solution to that problem, they then start squabbling rather than working together.

I apologize, but I don't believe you are open minded. I mostly replied so that a third party would not see such blame as you were making an unopposed statement and believe that is a representative perspective.

I don't disagree, but I think that's still the cart before the horse.

People in general need to stop tearing down people who are closest to them if any complex issue is to ever get solved imo. After the US election all you see is blame getting thrown around, and most of it (that I've seen) is blaming people closest in values for not approaching issues in the exact way the blamer wants them to.

Progressives seem like they will always struggle to make anything complex and meaningful happen when they tear each other down, meanwhile bigotry and regressiveness is pretty singular and easy for their opposition to mobilize.

Are you kidding? Is that really an event you think proves your point? Please tell me you will read further on in that event than whoever sold you a partial story and fooled you into thinking that.

If you're saying she didn't give people anything to be excited about, and she focused 'Trump is bad' then you imho did not follow the election, you followed social media and click bait.

Her platform was there, it was a great direction for this country to make us stronger, happier and represent the better aspects of American voters. I was very excited for it.

And personally, I didn't like her much at first, nor would I say she is ideal. But there are 3 choices: Harris, Trump, everything is fine. I was definitely excited to pick Harris with those being the only three options.

Have they stopped teaching politics in school or something?

The issue is you can't teach someone who not only doesn't want to learn, they react in opposition to the idea of understanding anything outside of emotional reactions.