CascadianGiraffe

If I had to boycott every company that was unethical, I'd have to grow my own food and generate my own electricity. It's just not practical.

It isn't easy. But it is possible. And yes sacrifices have to be made (as I respond using a cell phone because I can't function in society without one). The irony is not lost on me.

But I stopped eating meat that I didn't hunt or raise myself over 25 years ago. I spent years living in the woods using a second hand solar system that barely functioned. I've been growing as much food as I can for over 3 decades.

It is possible. But I don't expect everyone to make the same sacrifices that I have, and I do my best not to judge. But one of the biggest differences you can make in the world around you is who you support and who you give your money to.

Just shrugging your shoulders and saying 'oh well, it's easier to just go with the flow' is the opposite of solving the problem. I don't expect everyone to just live the way I do. But I do push those around me to think about the difference they could make by choosing alternatives.

Having a list of companies that support Musk is something I could use to help leverage others to make the first step in that direction.

Oh yes. I've been paying attention to those as well and theys are certainly on my no support list. But most of them were already ones I avoid. It is a good suggestion though. Thanks.

I'm sure someone has started.

Places like www.ethicalconsumer.org hae been around for a while. Even back in the early 90s I had a book that helped me avoid the worst companies. Just hoping to find something a little more focused on this new rising oppression.

I get it. I haven't even used that app in 3 months or so. (And that was to show some basic examples of my idea to a tattoo artist who was paid to make an original design based off my concept.)

The reality is that AI isn't going away. So rather than just give up, I'd rather find alternatives to the people that are the worst of a not so great thing.

Plus my question isn't which AI companies support Musk. I'm looking for a list of anyone that is promoting the hate and oppression that is quickly becoming acceptable.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised if AI based software used advertising created by AI that just grabbed top recent search terms.

But if they can't keep their software from promoting oppression and hatred, then I have no interest in it, AI or not.

I don't use AI really. Hell I barely use electricity in my day to day life. (Spent the previous 3 years living off-grid and haven't fully adjusted to living in a wired home yet.)

I'm more interested in making sure the people who don't deserve my support don't get it. I already stopped supporting the meat industry (99% vegetarian for 25+ years). I dropped Nestle back in the 90s as well. I already know which major corporations and brands to avoid.

I just am looking for something that focuses on our current issues.

This isn't really about AI, I'm more interested in dropping any company that wants to pick the side of oppression.

I do understand your point, just not an answer to my actual question.

It's not. But it's harder the longer you wait. We've stopped teaching children because skills like this don't fit into check boxes that can be marked off. It's far easier just to train them to memorize test answers. We don't TEACH anymore (likely because we don't pay people to). It's hard work, and the students outnumber the instructors so it's no surprise we're struggling. Parents don't continue the education at home and expect the system to do all the work because they are wasting all of their energy at work.

It's going to take generations and decades to fix this and we won't see the results in our lifetime. But we need to start doing things differently if we want things to be better for our descendants. We need to reform education AND create an environment where you don't need both adults to work 40+ hours a week to support the family.

Our farming system needs an overhaul, but I agree that this isn't the way to make that happen. But I am hoping this bullshit will force us to take a closer look at how we produce and approach it in a more sustainable fashion.

I don't think college education is the source we should be looking at.

Critical thinking skills need to be taught a much much earlier phase.

You know what we call people who defend Nazis?

Nazis

Fuck that. It's my country, I'm not leaving. We've defeated Nazis before we can do it again.