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Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds in c/[email protected]
Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 months ago

We agree with each other? He's either a man or intersex. He shouldn't be competing in women's sports.

Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds in c/[email protected]
Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds in c/[email protected]
Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -4 points 3 months ago (11 children)

All those things can also be bad. Do you agree that this is bad, though?

Paris Olympics: Italy's Angela Carini abandons fight with Algeria's Imane Khelif, who failed gender test, after 46 seconds in c/[email protected]
Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If in your mind the claim about a surge in suicides is sufficiently refuted,

Is it sufficiently refuted in your mind?

Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm not sure why the hostility? I've read the source, and you either didn't read it or misunderstood it. Nowhere does it say what you're claiming it says, you're welcome to disprove that with quotes.

For anybody else reading this, if you doubt that the above commenter misunderstood the article, you can just read it. It's not very long.

Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 months ago (5 children)

The entire premise in the article of denying any kind of gender-affirming treatment is what I was responding to

What? Can you quote any part of the article that tries to deny "any kind of gender-affirming treatment"? Here is the central claim that they're refuting:

The central claim, made on X (formerly known as Twitter), is that there has been a large rise in suicide by current and recent patients of the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) service at the Tavistock since an earlier restriction of puberty-blocking drugs that followed a High Court decision in a case (Bell v Tavistock) in December 2020. The rise is described as a “surge” in suicides and “an explosion”, indicating a substantial and, by implication, unequivocal increase. There are multiple references to children dying in future because they are unable to access puberty-blocking drugs.

Just refer to people the way they want to be referred to and respect their wishes. Isn’t that what we all want?

Can you quote any part of the article that conflicts with this statement?

Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (7 children)

That's not at odds with the article. The article refutes a claim that there was a surge in suicides due to inability to access puberty blockers. It doesn't touch on broader subjects like being called what you'd like.

Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report in c/[email protected]
[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Where does it say that suicides are "no big deal"? The central claim that it's refuting is this:

The central claim, made on X (formerly known as Twitter), is that there has been a large rise in suicide by current and recent patients of the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS) service at the Tavistock since an earlier restriction of puberty-blocking drugs that followed a High Court decision in a case (Bell v Tavistock) in December 2020

The article says suicides are tragedies, but also refutes the claim about a surge in suicides.

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Review of suicides and gender dysphoria at the Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust: independent report (www.gov.uk)
 

The summary:

  1. The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide in young gender dysphoria patients at the Tavistock.
  2. The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide.
  3. The claims that have been placed in the public domain do not meet basic standards for statistical evidence.
  4. There is a need to move away from the perception that puberty-blocking drugs are the main marker of non-judgemental acceptance in this area of health care.
  5. We need to ensure high quality data in which everyone has confidence, as the basis of improved safety for this at risk group of young people.
EXCLUSIVE: Cal State"Gender" Academic Inspired Pedophilic Fantasy On Castrating, Enslaving Young Boys - Reduxx in c/[email protected]
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EXCLUSIVE: Cal State"Gender" Academic Inspired Pedophilic Fantasy On Castrating, Enslaving Young Boys - Reduxx (reduxx.info)
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