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[–] stankmut 231 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The author complaining about Threads defederation from spinster was a pretty big red flag. It's on every mainstream mastodon blocklist I've seen and it's obvious he knows why. Really leaned into that "how can they discriminate against women!?" dog whistle that TERFs love to use.

Edit: Oh, it turns out he's married to the person who runs that server. He's also worked with Gab, used some of their code for his soapbox, and seems to have been involved with Trump's truth social. No wonder his feelings are hurt.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gleason is an infamous Fediverse villain.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 186 points 10 months ago (3 children)

'omg Meta's blocking nazi instances!'

  1. Gleason is a transphobic idiot.
  2. poast and spinster are blocked by everyone for hate speech.
[–] [email protected] 93 points 10 months ago

Bunch of loser crybabies wondering why they've been excluded when everyone hates their stupid asses for being objectively awful humans.

Eat shit, TERFs. Go die in a ditch, Nazis.

[–] rockSlayer 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm inclined to believe you on both points simply because I know lw blocks both of those platforms, but I don't know much about Gleason or spinster. It's billed as a "feminist platform", what's bad about it?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Transphobic hate speech. It's TERFtown.

[–] rockSlayer 39 points 10 months ago

Of fucking course it is. TERFs really poison the water with their bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still the nostr bridge has never caused any problems

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I'm not super familiar with them but mastodon.social is currently limiting them for spam.

[–] CaptainSpaceman 107 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Shouldn't let threads in anyways, fuck Meta

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 10 months ago

Tl;Dr: The most hateful and problematic instances that exist were wisely blocked by Meta, and the admins have found a workaround that lets them see Threads posts, but doesn't let Threads users see their posts.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent 49 points 10 months ago

They don't even have to defederate meta? What a lucky server!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Therefore, I am a proponent that Threads should not block any servers at all, unless the server itself is behaving badly from a technical standpoint. They should moderate every user on an individual level, regardless of which server they're on, using the extensive moderation tools at their disposal.

Haha, no. There are certainly good reasons to block entire servers when their userbase is horrible. A theoretical* instance that is based on hate speech doesn't need to have each individual member vetted when the server itself is a terrible concept. A server that actively promotes brigading would also be worthy of defederating without needing to spend time reviewing each individual account.

Where the line would be drawn will vary based on opinions, but the free speech absolutist idea that banning entire servers is always wrong is just plain stupid.

*Theoretical because I don't know of an example off the top of my head even though one or more most likely exists.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

I love how the guy who is so shitty he got his instances preemptively blocked thinks Meta gives a single shit about his self-serving suggestion.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Funny, there was a thread a few days back where people were raging about Meta being able to "harvest" the data they were posting in public on the Fediverse, and one of the ways people were insisting that Meta could be stopped was with "authorized fetch." That's exactly what Meta is apparently using in this case to block those servers, and which has been trivially worked around.

Public data is public, any attempt to make it conditionally public is just going down the DRM dead-end.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (8 children)

The problems I've seen mentioned regarding Threads have less to do with harvesting data and more to do with EEE

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what about regulation problem

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can you please elaborate? I'm not sure I know what you mean (and I'd like to).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

does fediverse get affected by regulations meant for companies like facebook

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Also a valid question!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

They might mean content moderation?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Meta is blocking Nazis... oh wait, I get it. This is a PR stunt to show the gullibles in the fediverse how much M(ark)eta has "changed." Sure, there might be a historical shift of right wing populism everywhere because of Meta's content regulatory practices but they've changed guys. C'mon.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

"Threads is blocking servers on the Fediverse"

tragedies abound

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Methinks Gleason protests too much

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

His entire brand is just platforming Nazis and complaining about the consequences...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (15 children)

I find it interesting that Meta Platforms, Inc., a company known for harvesting user data, is blocking some servers from fetching its public posts. They decided to implement a feature Mastodon calls Authorized fetch.

This was always going to happen. They will block agressively, because they can't have their precious advertising money mixed with CSAM, nazis and other illegal content. And the fedi is full of that.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

And the fedi is full of that.

[citation needed]

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

The fedi is, in fact, full of illegal content, but good admins share the blocklists so that nobody has to see it.

Tells you a lot about the Pleroma admins that insist on remaining completely unmoderated.

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