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[–] Parastie 112 points 6 months ago (23 children)

This is entirely a USA problem. No one in Europe uses iMessage as their primary messaging app.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (7 children)

What do they use? Whatsapp? Wechat? Signal?

[–] WorldieBoi 28 points 6 months ago (38 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Over here it's Facebook Messenger, followed by Telegram and only then WhatsApp. Signal is niche stuff for nerds such as yours truly.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Depends on the country but mostly WhatsApp followed in second place by Telegram

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

Germany uses Whatsapp and Signal. Whatsapp for the older generation, Signal for the younger ones. But almost everyone has both. Telegram is a niche messenger for conspiracy theorists and alt-righters, because it's russian and those people love Russia.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yea, that's totally why people I know use Telegram / 🤦‍♂️

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[–] woelkchen 5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Telegram is a niche messenger for conspiracy theorists and alt-righters, because it’s russian and those people love Russia.

Telegram is a nice messenger with good usability and funny stickers. The provider also doesn't hand out user data to authorities willy nilly, so it's popular among privacy-minded people of all political affiliations.

FTFY

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[–] TK420 4 points 6 months ago

And I refuse to use any Facebook products, so what’s app can fuck right off

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago

I really hate that some people I know only use Facebook Messenger, some use Instagram, some use Discord, and some use text.

It's a nightmare when working in groups for uni, so I just email everyone. Email has all the features I like.

[–] Mr_Blott 19 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Yeah the vast, vast majority of folk use Android, it's Apple that fucked up SMS.

Fuck them, nobody uses SMS for that reason, let Apple sort it out, or be forced to by the EU again lol

[–] stevehobbes 22 points 6 months ago (5 children)

This is so comically wrong I don’t know where to start. SMS was fucked from the get go, especially in the US where it was common to charge by the message for SMS. Seriously. It was $0.25 to send and $0.10 to receive them on a lot of people’s plans.

The wireless carriers fucked SMS, and will absolutely fuck up RCS - along with all the various providers out there. It’s a dogshit standard that isn’t broadly interoperable still.

iMessage was a breath of fresh air for people who did use SMS.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's so weird to me that in the US you pay to receive messages or calls. Where I live the sender pays, or the caller pays. It doesn't cost to receive. Plus you normally get unlimited messages anyway, like even a approx US$10 a month plan will have unlimited SMS included and like 200 minutes of outbound calling, plus data.

If you're paying for messages received then people can send you unsolicited messages and it costs you money?

[–] stevehobbes 8 points 6 months ago

I think they’re now broadly free on all but the most restrictive plans- but when iMessage came to be they weren’t - and most phones wouldn’t split 160 characters into multiple messages. You were literally limited by that.

They used to charge extra if you were roaming too. I think T-Mobile was the first to stop and everyone followed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You’re insanely correct, and it was extra fucked because it wasn’t even MORE DATA being used. It was piggybacking on unused data packets already being sent to towers, hence the character limit. BUT WE CAN NAKE MORE MONEY IF WE CHARGE FOR THAT

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[–] woelkchen 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

let Apple sort it out, or be forced to by the EU again lol

The EU's Digital Markets Act doesn't care about niche messengers like iMessage.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (4 children)

The elephant in the room, of course, is that this is literally only a problem in the United States. Everywhere else in the world, folks are totally fine using messaging apps. WhatsApp is pretty popular worldwide, and there are regional favorites too. But, the point is, it’s only in the States that people seem to be against this idea. The answer for why is very much up for debate, but the conversation is, at this point, just getting exhausting.

Can confirm, as a Brit. We probably would have a sardonic explanation for why only people in the States are against using other messengers too...

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[–] ElectricCattleman 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I still really miss Google Hangouts. It was integrated with Gmail as a web interface. The web and mobile app synced perfectly. You could use SMS/MMS, or chat, seamlessly in the same interface. Contacts worked correctly. SMS and chat history saved to Gmail so all the text was searchable. It was AMAZING and Google killed it for no reason, only to later replace it with inferior options.

Edit: oh yeah, you could also make phone calls, or group voice and video calls using the same app/web interface.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

tell that to everyone i know

[–] dog_ 4 points 6 months ago

I want to use good apps, but my family members don't. I can't just avoid my family.

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