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The ex-president praised the Supreme Court’s devastating decisions during a summit for Moms for Liberty — a right-wing, anti-government group — on Friday

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Progressives need to stop pretending that packing the court would open the door for conservatives to do the same.

At this point, conservatives will simply do the same if they lose control of it. They do not care about law and order and they do not care about mores. They only care about oppressing the weak and solidifying their power. The SCOTUS is a political institution that needs immediate reform.

We're racing to doomsday and they're leaning on the accelerator while progressives argue about whether it's safe to turn off the ignition.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Progressives know damn well that Republicans have already stacked the court. It's the establishment Democrats that are whining about an imaginary retaliation. You know, the centrists who are basically Republican lite, the assholes who whine about how extreme the Left-most parts of the party are, while ignoring how extreme the entire right-wing has always been.

We've seen this shit play out dozens of times in the past, the centrists say we progressives need to moderate ourselves to appeal more broadly, that we need to compromise or lose support. The reality plays out that any compromise we make is what loses us our support, and the centrists then side with the extremists on the right to hurt us more.

This is a great write-up of what it looks like in practice.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

we shouldve been packing the court already. but nope democrats dont wanna rock the boat. something about when they go low we get high. no sorry, when they go low kick em in the fucking mouth.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah, with what majority? There are only 47 Democrats and 2 independents who are interested in any politics left of center. Manchin, techincally a Democrat, will only vote for his personal, center-right beliefs, and Sinema, the only remaining independent has shown she's in it solely for personal financial gain. There was no time in which there were enough Democrats, excepting the two aforementioned posers, to add seats to the court or confirm any justice without some money changing hands. If it weren't about power or money we could have had 52 states (DC and PR) and at least 3 more truly democratic senators (considering the outside chance of a 50/50 split in PR). But that was impossible because it would have reduced the power of Manchin and Sinema, and that's the only reason for them to exist.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like how the Dems won't get rid of the filibuster, while the Reps got rid of it to push through the judicial nominees. Or how the Dems did absolutely nothing about the Rep Senate ignoring Obamas nominee and then rushing through their own at the last minute to stack SCOTUS.

Dems just can't admit that they need to play on the Reps level because the other team openly cheating while you take the high ground just tolerating the intolerant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's never been a filibuster in the House.

It didn't originally exist in the Senate either, but the worse Vice President we ever had, decided that the Senate had too many rules and got rid of most of them. One of those original rules allowed any senator to call for a vote, even when someone was on the floor speaking.

This rule, called the previous question for some reason, still exists in the House, along with the Hour Rule which limits the time a Representative can spend holding the floor.

So we already have the framework to end the filibuster, but conservatives on both sides of the aisle like it because it means that they can thwart progress.

Of course, when it gets in the way, Republicans quickly carve out an exception for themselves, like they did with Judicial appointments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

The Senate is a useless and bad institution anyway. It's the US House of Lords, where land is being given rights to vote over people.

If we're swinging magic wands anyway, just get rid of it and give its duties to the House. Or maybe return it to being a governor-appointed advisory board that only has proforma powers over legislation that the House can override.

At a minimum, make it so Senators can cast as many votes as they have constituents. Do the same thing for reps in the House.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

"needs immediate reform" is an understatement. The corruption thats coming to light is a literal threat to our democracy

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

why is he not in jail yet lol the fact that an obvious criminal is running for president is such a farce and a disgrace to this country smh

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I look forward to his conviction on multiple felony charges.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

"Moms for Liberty" are not "right wing". They are straight up fascists.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It took me 18 days on kbin to see traitor orange's ugly ass mug.