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Looking to access the music from an Android app.

Currently I'm using Jellyfin (since I already use it for other stuff), but it isn't ideal. No option to download entire albums easily, and if the server is offline then I can't even use the music downloaded to my phone.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I use Navidrome as the backend and DSub to connect to it. When I'm on the go I use a site-to-site wireguard VPN connection back to my server to listen to music and it also caches the songs so even if I don't have reception I can still listen to my music.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Similar setup for me: Navidrome container on my NAS, DSub or Symfonium on Android, and Wireguard for music while I run.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Navidrome is great. I use Substreamer on my Android device while my wife can use the same on iOS. Started off a little buggy when it released but it's very stable nowadays. I think many have moved to it from DSub according to Google Play reviews.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I mainly use DSub simply because I don't need constant updates for my music player and it already pretty much does what I need it to. The other plus it's on F-Droid so I don't have to use Aurora store to download it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks, will try this setup

[–] Eris 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lidarr to dl and plex/plexamp for listening. No issues so far. Haven't got to use sonic analysis yet but it's interesting that you could choose 2 songs and it will use sonic analysis to make a Playlist bridging between the two.

[–] davad 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

+1 for Plex and Plexamp. The Plexamp app works great on Android and Linux. Without that, I don't think I'd use Plex for music.

[–] CrashingMonkies 7 points 1 year ago

Another +1 for Plexamp. It's enjoyable and easy to use and they're very actively developing and supporting it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right now I'm using Plexamp. Really nice app, offline features work really well. Sonic Analysis is awesome. Only issue I have is it crashed sometimes when I'm using Google maps.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Plexamp is what I use. It's the closest feel to using my iPod touch back in the day. I just wish there was a better way to display archived podcasts!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have really wanted Plex to improve the way they support podcasts (and audiobooks) but sadly, I don' think they care about podcasts anymore.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out audiobookshelf, they're picking up the slack from Plex; dedicated for audiobooks and podcasts.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I have Plex Pass and I use Plexamp. The app is very nice. The download sometimes is flaky but I personally didn’t have issues with it much.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

I’ve been using navidrome since the start of the year. It was my first instance of self hosting my music and my main focus was to have a dedicated project for it and to not use something like Plex, Jellyfin, etc. I’ve been liking it so far, it’s simple and just hosts and streams music. Doesn’t have any client side apps or any tagging or smart algorithmic playlists, which is fine by me. Plenty of iOS and Android client side apps with varying features that can download. Worth checking out!

[–] suth 8 points 1 year ago

Plexamp, the app is great, but its offline/download support is not great either

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Plexamp with a lifetime Plex Pass subscription and love it. I mostly use it steam and keep some sonic analysis based radio stations downloaded for offline use.

[–] TheCakeWasNoLie 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I stopped using Plex when I needed an online account to access my local instance.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Plex with Plexamp and love it other than the forced online account, which is minor enough in my opinion that it's been hard to justify looking for an alternative. What did you move to?

[–] TheCakeWasNoLie 2 points 1 year ago

I moved to Emby, then to Jellyfin. Also, the other thing that bothered me was that with Plex I noticed I had an online account where I could access all my files. In other words, Plex was using my local data, which was the straw.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I won't lie that I don't love it but it's easy to swap my plex container for jellyfin if they try to enshittify

[–] ultimate_question 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes there's something particularly sketchy about an app that makes those kind of anti-user corporate decisions when it owes its popularity to the piracy community

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's the danger of trusting a for profit company, rather than the open source community.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What do you mean streaming? I have approximately half of the internet downloaded.

[–] dutchkimble 5 points 1 year ago

Hey I think I got the other half!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have half of the internet download to my home media server which I stream from... Sounds silly in one way when I think about it, but I have tens of terras at home and not all that much space on my phone.

[–] scholar 6 points 1 year ago

I also use Jellyfin, and Finamp is the best way to listen to music with it.

It has offline download support and has come a long way since I started using it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I have a dedicated music player with all my favorite music for offline listening (fiio x3 and also a pinephone with lollipop)

I also have a Jellyfin server and use finamp on my phone. It isn’t public so I have an always on WireGuard vpn.

For my stereo, I have a raspberry pi hooked up. It runs mpd and mounts the same music directory as Jellyfin using nfs.

The raspberry pi also has an nfc reader and I have nfc cards with printed artwork on them. Tapping them to the reader starts playing that album.

[–] tiwenty 6 points 1 year ago

With JF I can only advice to use Finamp, it allows you to download your albums.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

i use airsonic for self hosting both music and audiobooks. on Android I use the dsub app

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I use Roon ARC to self-host my library. It is paid, but, I bought the lifetime subscription because there is really no other music app that has the features Roon has.

Other than that, I have HiBy R3 Pro that is useless for Bluetooth, and when I'm hiking I want Bluetooth.

[–] dlundh 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This. I just returned to Roon after a years hiatus when I saw that this feature (streaming outside the home) had been added. And the just added "MUSE" to the streaming as well. The sales pitch for MUSE is: MUSE is the new name for Roon’s sound engine and audio processing suite. And now MUSE has landed in ARC – with bold styling and sound quality never before seen or heard in a mobile music app!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wtf, lifetime subscription is $830! That's a big gamble on the company not going bust in a year or two.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use Owntone server and various airplay devices around the home. That way I can just use the built in Apple Remote and streaming from iOS devices. I think there is similar apps for iPhone or you can use the web ui of Owntone.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use jellyfin, just have the webui on my phone so I don't need to download an app. I have a bunch of music videos that use different mixes than an album release that I listen to as music, so having the mixed media on one server is great for me. On your second point, if you download the music to your phone why can't you use the files directly with some other music player?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I use Emby(jellyfin broke with the amount of music i have and couldn't parse it properly so i actually bought Emby subscription) + Symphonium on Android. Just checked, full album download worked for me

Symphonium actually works with Jellyfin and has trial period so you can check it out

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Currently I use Plex and plexamp on my phone but it's not that great. I used to use Subsonic with dsub on my phone and that was awesome for both podcasts and music. Only issue was podcast watch status didn't sync and now it's no longer being maintained. Might try out airsonic and see if it works the same

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I tried Navidrome but am now very happy with Plex and Plexamp.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I have airsonic running in a docker container behing Nginx Proxy Manager. I use play:Sub on my iphone and it lets me download albums to my cache.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use PlexAmp with Plex and Deezloader (now deemix!) that directly downloads into the Plex Folders so it instantly gets tagged and picked up ready for listening.

I had a multi-hour session with musicBrainz Picard to fix the tags, but now I dont have to manually fix anything. I even got Pokemon OSTs running sorted by Editions

https://imgur.com/a/y607F04

I dont know how imgur albums work on lemmy

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have the same exact setup running on my server, and it's great. I also like having my entire library downloaded on some devices (some of which are more storage constrained), so I also have deemix setup to automatically transcode the flac files to opus and put it into a folder that is synced with a cloud storage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah I love the useability of PlexAmp combined with the "it just works" from deemix that has all the tagging done already

For reference, here is my library "summary" and the work I put in was basically finding duplicates, fixing tags to be Artist feat. Other Artist and stuff like that and that took around 3 hours to get the following script for the Picard Renaming Script part

$set(title,$rreplace(%title%,\(.*\)OST\\s+,)) 



  
$setmulti(artist,%artist%)  
  
$set(myvar,$getmulti(%artist%,0))
  
  
$if($is_multi(%artist%),$setmulti(artist,%myvar%))
  
  
  
$if2(%artist%)/
  
$if(%artist%,%album%/,)


$trim(%album%) - %title%
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

+1 for gelli on fdroid associated with tailscale. Good enough for my use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Jellyfin and Finamp. When it works it's great, but it seems to always crap out after half an hour or so of streaming.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. I don’t see this issue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's probably just my machine showing its age.

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