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Apple's Journal App for the iPhone Truly Surprised Me After a Month (www.cnet.com)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by FerNZA to c/apple_enthusiast

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Commentary: I don't use Journal every night, but even opening the app and looking back helps put time into perspective.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 7 months ago (3 children)

No export! This should raise all the red flags.

[–] cheese_greater 17 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Hey, they did say it stays on ur iPhone.../Sheesh

Edit: I'm pleasantly surprised by the Privacy Nutrition Label. Touché, Apple, perhaps there's hope for them yet ;)

[–] FerNZA 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yes I really wanted that and import.

But what I saw of it made me use it more than my dedicated journal app that has more features that I want. Now that they updated for the SDK let me see how they are doing over the next couple of weeks.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You’re current journal app has more features that you want, yet you use the new native Apple one more?

[–] FerNZA 6 points 7 months ago

Yes, because the entry is almost already done for you. You just write what you feel about it. No curating tour pictures etc.

The entry isn’t exactly like how I would want it but it isms close and it would have things in there like the location which I always set in my diaro entry and what it choose to be the best pictures.

It also adds suggestions that I normally wouldn’t write about like my walk or jog, but then because it is already compiled I just jot something down quickly.

[+] [email protected] -16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Export to what? Why? Jesus like pick some random, arbitrary feature to spread FUD 🤷‍♂️

[–] Tangent5280 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Export to cleartext files or markdowns, so you can keep your data if you ever decide to delete your icloud account, or get an android phone, etc.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can't believe this has to be explained, but a Journal is almost by definition something that you want to keep forever. Do you want to lock yourself into Apple devices forever? Have you ever heard of Nokia?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I can’t believe I have to explain this but Apple’s strength comes from their ecosystem. From smart home devices to appliances, to copy paste between devices, storing files in iCloud, air drop, and much much more.

There are a plethora of journal apps that will likely do what you want. Moreover, now. After all Apple has done to build and advance their ecosystem, now. A journal app. That’s the deal breaker?

Like I said, coocoo.

[–] FerNZA 3 points 7 months ago

For me this isn’t really a red flag but it is a big omission.

And it is the ecosystem that allows it to give you all that nice suggestions etc

I also don’t know how you would handle the export with all the exercise data etc there as well.

But a lot of apples products do have export like numbers pages etc. It is still in beta for its first release, maybe it will still come

[–] joneskind 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I've been journalling on Day One since February 2013. When I heard about Apple's Journal I wasn't impressed because of lack of export features and the lack of macOS support. I write long text and don't want to bother with a virtual keyboard. But I'm beginning to think that the whole point of the app is not to write some memoirs but simply to help remembering. In my opinion that's why the app lacks search and export features. Because it's not meant to be searched in or shared. It is not a note taking app. It is meant to act on your brain.

In my almost 11 years of journalling, I've never searched or shared anything, and I couldn't tell what I wrote last week. But very, very often I remember feeling something and writing about it years later. And this is exactly when the whole process becomes useful, when you can rely on how you analyzed a situation rather than feel the discomfort of it.

Anyone should have a diary.

[–] FerNZA 1 points 6 months ago

Yes, my entries in the journal app is much less thought out and structured than what I normally do for my diary entries.

I just wonder how easy it will be to find an entry if you want to look back after 1000s of entries. But I guess the app will also still grow with us.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] joneskind 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Been using Day One since February 2013. In the beginning there was a single Journal where you could put a single Picture and start writing in Markdown. They changed their economic strategy to subscription, added multiple journal, multiple pictures... videos, audio etc. removed markdown features I was using a lot (like footnotes) and the ability to see the markup for easy editing. They're basically EverNote now. They completely lost their original idea and what made Day One such a great journalling app. I wish I could easily switch to another one. I did it once with a more agnostic markdown note-taking app (iA Writer) but ultimately came back to Day One. I even developed one of my own as a PWA...

Day One is a totally different thing now. We don't need another full-featured note-taking app. We need something different and simpler.

SN: I'm also a GTD enthusiast who spent tons of money in apps like OmniFocus or Things or Agenda. I ditched everything to rely only on Reminders and Notes and have never been more efficient.