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[–] sirboozebum 76 points 1 year ago (4 children)

That is an interesting way of saying weapons were planted.

[–] Zippit 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They sue newspapers and media that say anything unfavourable about them. That's why BBC and other outlets are being super careful what and how they word shit.

A part of that 14 billion is going to propaganda and lawyers to sway public opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Is there any coverage on lawsuits like that?

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[–] Ibex0 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I only saw a couple old rifles. Is that a terrorist control node? I bet American hospitals have more guns.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Random rope under a chair? Must be used to tie hostage. Baby bottle on top of WHO box inside a hospital? Believe it or not, hostage.

[–] dasgoat 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] neeshie 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

God I hope they track down Monday and kill that terrorist son of a bitch.

[–] dasgoat 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fuck you monday, you weekend ruining cunt

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Whether the hospital was used as a base or not, presumably Hamas would take as much of their stuff out of it as possible when they retreated from it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

My neighbor probably has more guns.

[–] interceder270 33 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I mean, as soon as the US decided to withholds its information on the matter we already knew the answer.

Israel is a bunch of lying shitbags. Can't trust them anymore than Russia.

[–] Evotech 18 points 1 year ago

Agreed. If the us had proof they would share in an instant

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Be skeptical of everything since it has increasingly become clear that propaganda is what will win this war.

But this is not an NCIS investigation. Weapons and evidence need to be checked for booby traps and reporters can't show pictures of mutilated corpses on the front page. Of course things will be rearranged.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

From what I have seen so far it doesn't really matter if it was arranged. There just isn't much evidence of a command center. Sure there may have been a few AKs and a tunnel but that's hardly a command center.

[–] dx1 4 points 1 year ago

It's not just rearranged, it's different stuff.

[–] Sparlock 3 points 1 year ago

I liked the part in the IDF released video where they explicitly say it's a one shot no edits video and make a big deal of it.. until the obvious edit a little over 6 mins in...

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Al-Shifa lost power, what, 5 days ago? Prior to that, the MRI machine would presumably have been on. Anyone with ANY experience in a hospital should know that MRI machines and metals (like guns, ammunition) REALLY don't mix.

[–] yeshmin 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes and no. MRI's require large amounts of cryogens (LN2, LHe) which would likely be impossible to get during the siege. The magnets likely quenched well before.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't those cryogens only boil off in significant quantities of the machine can't get power?

Like, isn't that the whole reason MRI machines are never turned off?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cryogens boil off at a pretty consistent rate no matter what, but the recovery/recompression systems do require power. So once power is cut, any boil off isn’t recovered.

Superconducting magnets (like in MRIs) can run effectively forever when at the right temperature. Turning them off requires a complex process of draining off that current slowly and carefully so that the magnet isn’t damaged. Hard to do on a normal day, and profoundly harder if there’s no power.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Ahh, makes sense. That's so cool! Do you know what kind of priority a hospital would have if they were to ration electricity? Would an MRI machine be high on that list?

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[–] Zippit 12 points 1 year ago

Also, telecoms have been down since last Wednesday. I'm telling you, IDF has bulldozers and no one independent to verify what they're really doing or 'finding' there. I wouldn't put it past them to dig the tunnels themselves. And they'd still manage to fuck up.

Perception is key, they've built this image of being ultra smart and tech savvy etc... Nope, all gone now.

[–] NoSpiritAnimal 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But but but I saw the IDF drop of a stack of random legal file boxes with taped on print outs that said in English "Medical Supplies"! They're the good guys!

[–] tory 20 points 1 year ago

Printed on all 6 sides of the box, no less. And they were using super soldiers to lift them.... or maybe the boxes were empty. Hard to tell.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Just sprinkle some Hamas on 'em. Open and shut case.

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