And all the people who defended the lack of sideloading as a security feature will suddenly think it's a great idea.
this post was submitted on 12 Nov 2023
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They're gonna say anything to justify whatever bullshit shoved down their asses.
That's a little harsh but it does seem strange that when someone is a fan of a product they will refuse to acknowledge its flaws and will see every change, good or bad, as an improvement. Maybe I'm guilty of the same with the products that I like but Apple provides a lot of examples of this behaviour.
Hey man, I get wanting to turn blind eye to those flaws, but they don't need to fight people over it..
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I still think its a bad idea. Because in my country, the government loves their apps. And being able to bypass the app store will mean that they will force you to install their own “app store”. This would also mean they can put more invasive features in their app.
Or perhaps I’m overthinking it and my government has the best interest for the people.
Do they do that now for Android?
I think that's a problem with your country, not the ability to sideload.
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This would also mean they can put more invasive features in their app.
iOS apps will still be sandboxed. You have nothing to fear except whatever data you yourself enter into the app.
Where do you live?
From your post history, it looks like you're in Singapore. If so, then I don't think that will be a concern - if anything, given how most government apps treat sideloading on the Android side, they'll probably block you from using them if you use the feature.
Yea the most they do is bundle it with the phone which you can them easily uninstall.
The apps still need to request OS for specific permissions before they use things like GPS, mobile data, filesystem etc.
But the point you're missing is unless you're building everything yourself, there is always a party that you have to trust. Apple likes to paint itself as trustworthy when it comes to your data, but all the anti-consumer shenanigans they do when it comes to hardware clearly state that the only thing they care about is money.
Remember - it's either convenience with a false sense of security or security. Never both.
Thanks, EU.
Please just let this be a global decision, and not like these companies do with GDPR.
If this turns out to be EU-only, then it’ll be useful for niche apps and ones that aren’t normally allowed (like emulators, third party YouTube apps, and other cool shit), but it won’t be commercially useful for the titans of tech like Google and Meta. Not a bad start.
The EU is a huge market. Microsoft, for example, is already building their own app store to take advantage of the DMA. Let’s hope that the change puts pressure on regulators in other regions.
Side loading and OS modding would be the only thing that could make migrate.
Changing their business model from walled garden lock-in would be the only thing that'd make me consider migrating.
Only thing that would make me use an iphone is side loading and the ability to place my icons wherever i want. Its crazy to me that icons have to start in the top left. The hardest place to reach especially as phones have gotten bigger. Such a dumb restriction.
That's really a thing? Wow. Guess you can install a bunch of junk apps to fill that corner so you can reach the stuff you actually use lol
I believe you can place widgets now which would fill some of the space, still very stupid though.
I had the 2nd and 4th Gen iPod touches and the way to do it back then was to jailbreak it and use an app that installs blank icons so you can "arrange" the pages however you wanted. Good times.
also lifting that stupid ban on other browser engines, and I'd like to see the ability to change more default app stuff
Yeah, that too
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Apple May Soon Be Forced To Allow Sideloading Apps on iOS.
"We present you a new, groundbreaking and inovative technology" or some other typical shit Apple does.
I’m really hoping this happens. I’d like to write a few iOS apps for personal use, but I don’t want to pay fees to be a developer.
Hmm, aren’t the costs only for publishing on the app store and you can import an app from your own xcode for free? At least I was under that impression.
You can only install 3 self-signed apps at a time, and they expire after 7 days. It’s meant to make it difficult for anything other than development purposes.
Came here to say that. Expiring every 7 days is too troublesome to be worth it.
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Hope we get dolphin iOS 🥹 without the hassle
Doubt Apple will allow JIT to run on their specific region sideloading.
The DMA requires Apple to provide access to all hardware and software features required to serve competing apps and services. Browser engines are explicitly mentioned several times, and these require JIT access. It’s going to be interesting to see how they implement that.
Does that mean I will finally get browser plugins on Firefox?
Yes! And Chrome.
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Oh really thats neat! Well I hope it comes here in the states or else my current iPhone will probably be the last I'll ever use once the battery degrades enough or it no longer gets support. I really don't want to have to pay 20 dollars for a signing service and a abunch of outdated apps or be tethered to a computer to use JIT ever again and I would rather just use my android phone for everything.
😭 i fear as well
Good news is you'd probably be able to run a torrent client or anything else that doesn't require JIT code in order to function.
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Brussels Effect. 🇪🇺
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Not OP, but is this one better? https://www.computerworld.com/article/3710368/apple-gets-ready-for-app-sideloading-in-europe.html
Porn. When?
You can't just type it into your browser?
because they are forced to
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