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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Google sucks at messaging. They had hangouts and it was fine, but they just were too busy shitting the bed to run with it.

[–] GlitzyArmrest 12 points 1 year ago

Remember Allo? It was the only time I had a good experience with anything related to Google+messaging.

[–] Darorad 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, the only reason people use messages is because it's basically baked into Android

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] FutileRecipe 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which sadly hasn't had a stable realase in over 2.5 years, isn't available for modern phone CPUs, and doesn't support RCS. The RCS and E2EE is the main reason I use Messages.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is my S22 not modern? I use it every day.

Fair about RCS and E2EE.

[–] FutileRecipe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Is my S22 not modern? I use it every day.

Sorry, "modern Android with a modern CPU" would probably be more accurate:

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Oh. Well that's a bummer.

[–] AFreeLarryHoover 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I truly miss the way circles worked. It was very nice to not see political posts from people you were only interested to see Video Gaming posts from.

This seems more like a way to achieve what Samsung does with its messaging app

[–] ForgotAboutDre 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It remains to be seen whether Profiles are an RCS feature or something that Google (Messages) is managing and hosting itself.

This misconception that RCS isn't just Google in a big hat is strong.

If your using RCS it is highly probable you or one of your contacts are being provided with RCS through Jibe.

Jibe is Google's proprietary RCS backend. Carriers aren't implementing RCS so Google does it for them. RCS isn't a proper open standard, it's Google trying to jam it's messaging service into your life through the backdoor.

Developers can't make custom frontends for RCS because Google won't let them. Only Google and device manufacturers can.

They are trying to force apple into this system as well. They hope to get iMessage to support it. So they'll have their messaging system embedded into every Android or iPhone.

The worst part is it barely works. I'll get more unable to deliver over RCS than I've ever seen on Signal, Telegram and WhatsApp. As soon I switch back to SMS it delivers straight away. The fact it doesn't switch automatically further frustrates me because it'll leave messages hanging, when you expect the text messaging app to send texts.

[–] FutileRecipe 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The worst part is it barely works. I'll get more unable to deliver over RCS than I've ever seen on Signal, Telegram and WhatsApp.

Maybe for you. I've never had it not work, with the exception of Airplane mode, but that's by design.

As soon I switch back to SMS it delivers straight away. The fact it doesn't switch automatically further frustrates me because it'll leave messages hanging, when you expect the text messaging app to send texts.

There's a setting under Message's RCS chat to auto resend as SMS if RCS can't send. Have you tried enabling that? I personally haven't because I also use RCS for E2EE for those who don't use Signal. And I'd be irritated if my E2EE app sent it in plain-text/SMS without my explicit consent, which you're implying you want (but can enable with that setting, which would be a blanket consent).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There’s a setting under Message’s RCS chat to auto resend as SMS if RCS can’t send.

To be fair, this setting is reliably not working and is a known issue.

[–] laxmanndhotre 2 points 1 year ago

Classic google, make open technology. Use its own closed version of the technology. Sell it as open source (not true). Get mass adoption. Leave the open source version hanging.

Just look at android. The open source version of android has no chance to survive from business pov because google made sure to lock all their services to google android. And no one buys android without google play.

Same with chrome.