Hmm
Didn't we already have this for a breid shining moment with XMPP before Google and others broke it?
this post was submitted on 08 Nov 2023
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It’s not broken though. They broke their own forks of it.
Google basically Embrace, Expand, Extinguished XMPP.
Only “basically”!?
"Broke" isn't really tye right word. The protocol exists and could be used but companies like Google added proprietary atuff that made it impossible to use it as an open universal "system".
Would be goated if everyone just switched to the Signal protocol and interop was mandated, but that'll never happen unfortunately.
Isnt signal protocol just encrypting? It doesent deliver messages
Signal is a means for message encryption, and if every platform used it and then were mandated to interop, they'd have to figure out how to do the actual transfer, yes. RCS is basically this except nerfed and partially Google-owned which is shit.
This is where Matrix comes in. Fully open source and supports federation the way Lemmy does. (Even more effectively, actually.)
Matrix is more of a Discord alternative than a Whatsapp alternative though unless I'm mistaken?
For Element, Matrix' flagship client, you are correct.
Anyone can build their own clients, however, and apps like FluffyChat & Syphon aim to mimick the look and feel of WhatsApp.
Spell check was invented in 1971.
Meme is missing an s, literally unreadable
Spell check existed way before 1971.
RCS will be closed?
The implementation google pushes for is, also couldnt find any foss rcs apps
After a quick googling it looks like RCS is a proprietary standard of GSMA and not open in any implementation.
Am I missing something here? I assume you have more info than me so maybe there's more insight on there being open implementations.
I also think that, but im not sure, what I am sure is that the Google implementation is not
Talk about a total bummer either way. I appreciate the confirmation.
wtf I didn't even think about checking if RCS was open source, I thought it was obviously! I was hoping so much from RCS, are SMS also proprietary?
there's the part that google added on top, which isn't open.
And then there's rcs itself, which isn't open either. You need to get a license from the gsma
I'm not really into these types of apps but I think is close to what you're looking for.
Ah yes, Failed to load image, my favorite messaging protocol
Boost still uses reddit formatting i think https://matrix.org
Is putting a ! infront of a markdown link not standard for an image? That’s why it’s doing it.
Lemmy does use some different markdown formats than I have usually seen, so maybe it’s not a standard just the common thing.
Edit: oh you meant the other way around. Anyway, weird that Reddit used that for links.
Thanks for the laugh my sweet little internet hero of the day!
Google tries to make many messaging standards and programs
All fail because of mismanagement
This is supposed to be Apple's problem?
Google didn't create RCS. The idea was floated in 2008 and in 2009 the GSM association (Non-profit, representing 700+ mobile carriers across the world) began directing the project. Since then 47 mobile network operators, 11 equipment manufacturers, and 2 operating system companies (Google & Microsoft) have pledged their support for RCS.
In fact, Google only started implementing RCS in 2019 whereas Samsung has been releasing phones since 2012 with RCS. Now RCS is actively used by over 88 operators in 59 countries with almost 400,000,000 daily users.
tl;dr - Apple not using RCS is Apple's problem when the rest of the world does.
It’s not about Apple or Google. There just needs to be a common standard.
It's not Android users who are getting ugly green text boxes on their phones.
Google always
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