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[–] WaxiestSteam69 64 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't we already have this for a breid shining moment with XMPP before Google and others broke it?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s not broken though. They broke their own forks of it.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google basically Embrace, Expand, Extinguished XMPP.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Only “basically”!?

[–] WaxiestSteam69 9 points 1 year ago

"Broke" isn't really tye right word. The protocol exists and could be used but companies like Google added proprietary atuff that made it impossible to use it as an open universal "system".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm OOTL with this. Anakin, what are you talking about?

[–] OscarRobin 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would be goated if everyone just switched to the Signal protocol and interop was mandated, but that'll never happen unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Isnt signal protocol just encrypting? It doesent deliver messages

[–] OscarRobin 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Signal is a means for message encryption, and if every platform used it and then were mandated to interop, they'd have to figure out how to do the actual transfer, yes. RCS is basically this except nerfed and partially Google-owned which is shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is where Matrix comes in. Fully open source and supports federation the way Lemmy does. (Even more effectively, actually.)

[–] OscarRobin 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Matrix is more of a Discord alternative than a Whatsapp alternative though unless I'm mistaken?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For Element, Matrix' flagship client, you are correct.

Anyone can build their own clients, however, and apps like FluffyChat & Syphon aim to mimick the look and feel of WhatsApp.

[–] LucidLethargy 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Spell check was invented in 1971.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Meme is missing an s, literally unreadable

[–] coffeebiscuit 2 points 1 year ago

Spell check existed way before 1971.

[–] HerrBeter 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The implementation google pushes for is, also couldnt find any foss rcs apps

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

After a quick googling it looks like RCS is a proprietary standard of GSMA and not open in any implementation.

Am I missing something here? I assume you have more info than me so maybe there's more insight on there being open implementations.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also think that, but im not sure, what I am sure is that the Google implementation is not

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Talk about a total bummer either way. I appreciate the confirmation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

wtf I didn't even think about checking if RCS was open source, I thought it was obviously! I was hoping so much from RCS, are SMS also proprietary?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

there's the part that google added on top, which isn't open.

And then there's rcs itself, which isn't open either. You need to get a license from the gsma

[–] zorro 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not really into these types of apps but I think matrix is close to what you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ah yes, Failed to load image, my favorite messaging protocol

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boost still uses reddit formatting i think https://matrix.org

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is putting a ! infront of a markdown link not standard for an image? That’s why it’s doing it.

Lemmy does use some different markdown formats than I have usually seen, so maybe it’s not a standard just the common thing.

Edit: oh you meant the other way around. Anyway, weird that Reddit used that for links.

[–] joneskind 6 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the laugh my sweet little internet hero of the day!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Google tries to make many messaging standards and programs

All fail because of mismanagement

This is supposed to be Apple's problem?

[–] N200L 23 points 1 year ago

Google didn't create RCS. The idea was floated in 2008 and in 2009 the GSM association (Non-profit, representing 700+ mobile carriers across the world) began directing the project. Since then 47 mobile network operators, 11 equipment manufacturers, and 2 operating system companies (Google & Microsoft) have pledged their support for RCS.

In fact, Google only started implementing RCS in 2019 whereas Samsung has been releasing phones since 2012 with RCS. Now RCS is actively used by over 88 operators in 59 countries with almost 400,000,000 daily users.

tl;dr - Apple not using RCS is Apple's problem when the rest of the world does.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

It’s not about Apple or Google. There just needs to be a common standard.

[–] TheBat 8 points 1 year ago

It's not Android users who are getting ugly green text boxes on their phones.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana 2 points 1 year ago

Google always

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Pixel mplus 12

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

La asta chiar nu m-am gândit