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It updated a Thinkpad dock with no issues while on Windows, I had to find specific drivers and sketchy update utilities. Awesome!

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago

I used it at work recently to update my work-provided HP Thunderbolt dock, and it resolved an issue where the external monitors would fail to activate after resuming from standby. I never got an update notification when I was using my Windows laptop so I was oblivious to it; it was only thanks to connecting it to my Linux laptop and fwupd, that I found out there was an update, which subsequently resolved the issue.

I love it when stuff like this happens and Linux saves the day. =) (and I get to show off to my Windows ~~heathens~~ colleagues.)

[–] jeroentbt 11 points 1 year ago

I'm here just to join you shouting out. Great peace of software.

[–] piexil 8 points 1 year ago

FYI fwupd also works on windows

There's an MSI in the releases https://github.com/fwupd/fwupd/releases

I thought I read somewhere that windows update would eventually pull from lvfs but I can't find a source for that

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Either it doesn't support my mobo, or my mobo doesn't support firmware updates from inside the OS. I had to update my mobo manually yesterday. At least I now get a clean boot without any irq handler warnings.

[–] 8osm3rka 12 points 1 year ago

It's more likely that your vendor doesn't push updates for your mobo to LVFS

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Looks like they have no idea how to get their software working using Nix. The following blurb is absurd to most GUIX or Nix users:

NOTE: In most cases, end users should never compile fwupd from scratch; it's a complicated project with dozens of dependencies (and as many configuration options) and there's just too many things that can go wrong.

Users should just have fwupd installed and updated by their distro, managed and tested by the package maintainer. The distribution will have also done some testing with how fwupd interacts with other software on your system, for instance using GNOME Software.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not sure I see the problem here? It does say most cases and I'd definitely consider Nix/GUIX users to be in the minority for this (on top of users who would even compile software themselves in the first place).

Also from what I experienced during my (not so long) time with NixOS, usually things in Nixpkgs were contributed there by community members who ported applications over to be compatible with Nix. Sure, it's a nice extra thing when the application developer does so out the gate, but given how special Nix and GUIX's environment is, the onus has never really been on the app dev.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’m not pointing to a problem per se. I’m just saying that this dev dismissed the act of building this from scratch as impossible when it is not actually impossible. Honestly, I’m just trying to spread the word about Nix and GUIX because they make things that were previously considered impossible (like this) possible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see, that's plenty fair enough, although I don't think they meant it quite so literally (but rather as a method of lightening their support requests - I don't have any fwupd capable hardware AFAIK however I get the feeling fwupd is pretty popular).

I find it really cool what Nix/Guix are doing and I give major props to their communities for what they've pulled off, for what its worth.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Oh that's awesome! Although I can't say I'm surprised, the last I heard Nixpkgs had more packages than the AUR, which is certainly no small feat.