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The DWP have published the results of a survey on the public’s attitudes to a worrying list of new powers it is considering acquiring, allegedly in order to combat fraud, error and debt in the benefits system.

The proposed new powers include:

  • Trained DWP investigators having arrest powers
  • Trained DWP investigators having search and seizure powers
  • Collecting information about where claimants are spending money
  • Collecting banking information as soon as fraud is suspected, rather than waiting for a criminal investigation
  • Asking banks to share information about accounts which look like someone may be committing fraud
  • Government organisations sharing data with DWP about claimants

The DWP research claims to show that a majority of the public were in favour of every one of these measures being introduced.

Even amongst a group of claimants, the DWP claim, more people considered the powers acceptable than found them unacceptable, with the exception of collecting information about where claimants are spending money.

Given the levels of incompetence, data loss and unaccountability at the DWP, the possibility that staff could arrest claimants and seize their possessions is likely to alarm many readers.

Equally, the idea that the DWP could begin examining bank accounts and looking at how a claimant is spending their money merely because the they suspect fraud is a cause for real concern.

With the department increasingly relying on AI and algorithms they don’t fully understand to detect fraud, the possibility of claimants being wrongfully arrested and facing long and poorly resourced investigations seems real.

No legislation has yet been put forward by the DWP and many will hope that a general election intervenes and that these proposals never become anything more than the wish list of a failing department.

You can read the full details of the DWP consultation on possible new powers here.

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[–] 9point6 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do I live in a nation with so many psychopaths that don't see this as the torture it is?

I am pretty disgusted by my country right now; even autocrats treat their own citizens better than this

[–] Apepollo11 5 points 1 year ago

Three of the questions had alternative versions which were presented to half of the sample, selected at random. One half of respondents (sample A) saw neutrally worded versions of these questions, while the other half (sample B) saw versions with wording intended to elicit a more favourable response.

Ok, absolutely nothing suspicious about that...

[–] einlander 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like civil asset forfeiture, with extra steps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like I always say, "investigate the poors" because we all know they're hiding gold and gems beneath the floorboards of squalor and misery. I call this the "leprechaun" hypothesis, follow the rainbow of daily struggle and at the end you'll find all the monies that the dregs have swindled from society. Then I say, "put them in jail and show them what a honest days work is really like" and then I go swimming in my money bin because I am Scrooge McDuck.

Just in case. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who says the States has a monopoly on being fucked in the head. Death really will be a nice break from living in the land of monsters.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Britain - home of the workhouse.. :/

I think if anything, underlying attitudes are worse, we're just better at hiding it with "politeness"..