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[–] toomanypancakes 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

This is why I hate liberals as a liberal. They chastise Republicans for being xenophobic and unwelcoming, acting all high and mighty and morally superior. And then they turn around and do the exact same thing when they are presented the opportunity to demonstrate their values.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Aren't there supposedly empty offices everywhere that no one shuts the fuck up about?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There are, but they're not very practical to convert over. You have to add/move almost every wall, run all new plumbling and electric, redo the hvac, basically just redo the entire building.

I've heard claims that its often better and cheaper to just knock down and rebuild from scratch. I haven't seen the math but I believe it.

Imo, thats what should be done, rebuild from scratch, but limited construction workers, limited hours in a day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Biden has already addressed this.

Buttigieg noted that urban downtowns tend to be situated near public transit, which brings office corridors under his purview. To that end, the department is releasing guidance for cities, states and developers to tap into financing from two of its flagship programs — which together account for more than $35 billion in lending — for rehab projects.

[–] MotoAsh 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh no, some work has to be done and it won't be identical to the suburbs! I guess that means it's not even worth fixing part of the problem because there's some work involved.

You are genuinely pathetic. Genuinely uncaring. Genuinely looking for excuses not to help people. Disgusting.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 year ago

Did you not read the last bit of my comment?

We should rebuild from scratch, as per my last comment.

[–] PizzaMan 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've heard claims that its often better and cheaper to just knock down and rebuild from scratch.

Sometime it is, sometimes it isn't. It's incredibly situational.

The zoning laws need to be relaxed across the board, which is a big part of why it's hard to convert. It would also probably just be better if the government went halvsies on the cost of conversion with developers. It would be cheaper than the government funding brand new projects, and it would make it more economically viable for developers to do conversions. Because the total cost to society will almost always be higher to rebuild from scratch.

That, and quite a lot of pollution is created in the process of tearing down and rebuilding a brand new building. We already payed for the pollution for these buildings the first time around, we should avoid a 2nd round if possible.

[–] White_Flight 2 points 1 year ago

doesn't Chicago get really, really cold in the winter?

Now that's going to be a shit show, they better figure something out before winter

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago

more chiraqrifices