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Israeli military spokesman Daniel Hagari said in a briefing early Wednesday morning that no Israeli strike, either by air, land or sea, occurred near Al-Ahli Arab Hospital at the time of the deadly explosion. He added that drone footage, radar information and a recording of Gaza militants indicate a misfired Islamic Jihad rocket was responsible.

He said the Israeli military would soon publish the radar info, footage and a recording of militants in Gaza assigning blame to Islamic Jihad, a group aligned with Hamas. All the information, Hagari said, would be given to President Biden as part of a "full briefing" when the U.S. leader arrives in Israel Wednesday.

Palestinian Ambassador to the U.N. Riyad Mansour accused Israel of carrying out the strike, calling Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a liar for blaming the strike on the armed group Islamic Jihad. “Now they change the story to try to blame the Palestinians. It is a lie,” Mansour said during a press conference at the U.N. headquarters.

Edit: From the IDF’s official Telegram Channel

Post 1:

IDF: A failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization hit the Al Ahli hospital in Gaza City

Attached is a video from the IAF system that captured the area around the hospital before and after the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization: https://bit.ly/3M5oQMI

Post 2:

IDF: Following the briefing by the IDF Spokesperson Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari on the failed rocket launch by the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization that hit the hospital in Gaza City:

Attached is the briefing: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC1810202362

Attached is a recording of a conversation between Hamas operatives regarding the Islamic Jihad failed rocket launch on the hospital on October 17, 2023: https://bit.ly/3S4xqiG

Attached is a visual analysis following the IAF’s examination on the subject: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC1810156854

Attached is an infographic of all the failed rocket launches in the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/1810202309876543672

Attached is a photograph from the IDF launch identification system on the subject: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC18102023984

Post 3:

Following the recording that was sent out, attached is a transcript of the conversation between Hamas operatives: https://IDFANC.activetrail.biz/ANC181020238465

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oof. Ngl the recording is pretty telling. But it is just secondhand evidence.

The evidence presented from the recording is: someone said the shrapnel is from a Palestinian rocket." Not, "here are images of the shrapnel, which could only come from Palestinian rockets."

I haven't looked at the other evidence though. It could be that this, combined with the rest of the evidence, paints a more complete picture.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

This is what I was thinking of looking for. I know in the Ukraine conflict, they typically show rocket debris when going over incidents with rockets, so I was hoping to see some of the supposed debris here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'll just leave this here with the warning that the "graphic video" shows dead babies and blown up people so you may want to skip that one.

One of the other videos is of the impact. You can clearly hear a projectile before the explosion. I'm not claiming to know who fired it.

https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israels-spin-about-hospital-massacre-quickly-comes-apart

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you take The Electronic Intifada at face value, I really don’t know what to tell you. They are one of the most biased news outlets possible in this conflict. I’ve never one seen them once try to understand the Israeli perspective. It’s pure propaganda.

Fore example, their headline for Hamas’ brutal attack on Irsaeli civilians was “Israel-Arab normalization has not eliminated the resistance.”

[–] jordanlund 1 points 8 months ago

@[email protected] It looks like the copy/pasta here might run afoul of the rules regarding copyright.

Consider editing it down to make it more concise and be guaranteed to be fair use. The topic is important and I don't want to just remove it wholesale to eliminate copyright risk.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (13 children)
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[–] TokenBoomer -1 points 8 months ago

They should bomb Gaza if it turns out it was Hamas. /s

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