this post was submitted on 16 Oct 2023
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[–] petunia 45 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Speaking from experience, they could fix their spam and abuse woes very easily by just closing new signups or restricting it in some way. Simplest would be invite-only (built-in feature of Mastodon), or restrict the signups page based on IP range whitelist/blacklist.

EDIT: Their domain has been reinstated, and they disabled open signups. New registrations now require moderator approval https://pawoo.net/@pawoo_support/111249170584706318

:pawoo: Announcement! Thank you for always using Pawoo. Due to server congestion, new registrations will now require approval by a moderator. Thank you very much for your cooperation.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

you mean they should turn off the user-count-go-uppinator? but how would the fediverse grow like that?? /s

(sorry i just have opinions on large instances)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The nature of a site like reddit (and lemmy and all other alternatives) means a large userbase is necessary. Not at the expense of CSAM, but also everyone trying to gatekeep lemmy doesn't realise that we'll die a slow death unless the fediverse grows by at least 10-20x.

[–] themusicman 4 points 1 year ago

Doesn't have to be all on one instance though. Instances shouldn't grow beyond what they can admin/moderate

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I swear, Lemmy users act like they are completely in favor of an instance of 40 users and a submission every other week. Seeing scale as inherently bad.

Lemmy will fucking roll over and die within the year.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m pretty sure they were complicit in this and were not really trying to fight it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

Actual CSAM on pawoo wasn't even a problem. It was just spam from feds or scammers.

[–] petunia 9 points 1 year ago

Absolutely brain-dead speculation based on literally nothing. Complicit in what??? The current owner is a very public figure, so they gain nothing and have everything to lose. It's just pure incompetence and mismanagement.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I browse in dark mode for a reason.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would like to see a yearly mass purge of all CSAM instances.

[–] nandeEbisu 5 points 1 year ago

Why wait a year?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why are there people downvoting people commenting about not wanting CSAM?

[–] Darkhoof 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What does the acronym CSA mean? I'm not native English.

[–] endhits 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

CSAM is Child Sexual Exploitation Material

People prefer using this term over CP because the word "porn" is considered too soft. Porn is generally a consensual, adult medium made with adults for adults. CP is not that, it's first and foremost harm of a child.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Another reason is that "CP" got jokingly coopted by abusers in the form of various dogwhistles (e.g.: "cheese pizza"). It made more sense to adopt a new acronym rather than try to uphold any sense of decorum while sharing ownership of the term w/ edgelords & predators.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean it's more accurate and unambiguous. Definitely preferable overall IMO.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's strange to me, because Child Porn sounds revolting to me but CSAM sounds like something I can treat with aspirin.

[–] endhits 1 points 1 year ago

CSAM is a pretty sterile term so I can see where that feeling comes from.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Child Sexual Abuse Material". It's an awkward acronym that's mostly overtaken "Child Pornography".

[–] Darkhoof 2 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

did i get banned or smth