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Hei there. I've read that it's best practice to use docker volumes to store persistent container data (such as config, files) instead of using bindmount. So far, I've only used the latter and would like to change this.

From what I've read, all volumes are stored in var/lib/docker/volumes. I also understood, that a volume is basically a subdirectory in that path.

I'd like to keep things organized and would like the volumes of my containers to be stored in subdirectories for each stack in docker compose, e.g.

volumes/arr/qbit /arr/gluetun /nextcloud/nextcloud /nextcloud/database

Is this possible using compose?

Another noob question: is there any disadvantage to using the default network docker creates for each stack/container?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just do bind mounts unless you really need docker volumes for something

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Will do, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Never heard that bindmounts are bad practice. Never had problems with it. What did you read?

If it ain't broken ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Yeah, that seems to be the gist of it. I've seen several people say that they prefer volumes as they are managed by docker and therefore easier to migrate / backup. Since I plan on moving to different hardware in the near future, I figured why not.

Also something about permissions, though I never had any problems with it. So as you said, I'm sticking with bind mounts for now.

Also I don't have a clue what I'm doing at least 50 percent of the time and just follow guides. That's why I wanted some clarification on that :)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

Do not access volumes directly on filesystem. path may change. If you need access data on a volume just spawn temporary container an mount that volume.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you have data else where on your server, you can use the options to volume to direct the mount there

driver: local driver_opts: type: none o: bind device: '/your/current/data'

Also reading the compose spec will help

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks, this looks like it'll do the job. I have not a lot of knowledge, so the specs are often a bit technical for me. I'll give it a go, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

that is using bin mounts again. and i don't get why this is discouraged, i actualy do like to know where my data is stored and don't want to spin up a container that backs up using the volumes managed by docker. at that point you are using bind mounts again anyway.

regarding your original question, i don't think it is possible (or even useful) to tell docker where to store the volumes for each compose stack because you are not supposed to access the from the filesystem directly anyway.

just continue using bind mounts

[–] ad_on_is 2 points 8 months ago

tbh...I hate volumes. I prefer having my docker data in my home folder, which I do regularly back up

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

@Pete90 There is plugins you can use to tell docker where your volumes are. Something like this works for local directories:

Docker will create a _data directory as usual.

volumes:
web_data:
db_data:
driver: local # Define the driver and options under the volume name
driver_opts:
type: none
device: /data/myservice/db_data
o: bind

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

this is a bind mount, defining them like this in a compose file is for when multiple containers share volumes, you just need to write the name of the volume instead of the path, but...

 - database:/var/lib/mysql

is not that much less than

 - ./database:/var/lib/mysql

🤷

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

@ErwinLottemann I like named volumes in my compose files better thou, keep them organised under the volume section and manageable with docker-cli if needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Ah, so I basically specify with driver and it's option(s) where to save the volume. I'll play around with it for a bit and see where it goes. Thanks!