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Let's stop the EU chat control! [Most of your friends have never heard of Chat Control] (stopchatcontrol.eu)

submitted 11 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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1️⃣ Completely normal photos, such as holiday pictures 🏞️ are considered suspicious.

2️⃣ So our private family photos or the chats and pictures from your sexting yesterday 🍑🍆 also end up on an official table. So we can throw privacy in the bin 🚮

Chances are high that most of your European friends have never heard of chat control. So let them know about the danger and what you think about the chat control proposal.

“The European Commission launched an attack on our civil rights with chat control. I contacted my local MEP to tell him that I oppose the proposal. You can do so too! This Website I found will help you write an e-mail to an MEP using A.I.”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Look man, its like this: these surveillance pushes will not stop. Governments want to control everything. You can lobby to stop this this time, then in a year or two you'll be posting this kind of stuff again. One day they'll succeed.

The only real solution is noncompliance. Don't comply, don't use services that comply. Use XMPP. Use a third party matrix server. Use briar. Use simplex. Use session. Use things incapable of complying with anything in the first place.

This sort of legislation really only effects people that give a fuck. It effects people using Facebook and WhatsApp and gmail. It doesn't effect you if you don't want it to. We are a Monero community, we don't comply.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

This is the way, the state has become a parasite and politics are fully controlled. Criminals are in charge and it is no use pleading with the slave-master for your freedom. If you want it back, take it back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Obviously there are a lot of corruptions, yeah… But I’d like to believe that we may be able to change things a bit. We may be able to fight back, rectify things…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No objection to that, but I want a fully functional parallel system which we can use to circumvent them anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah, fail-safe, Plan B, contingency plans… Plan A should be letting more people know what’s happening; if more people think “they” are wrong and start saying no to “them”, that works most directly and straightly. After all, politicians don’t want voters to dislike them.

You’re right. It’s not enough just to criticize the current situations. We better think forward and prepare in case “they” have their way. Although, that doesn’t mean we should keep silent and make things easy for “them”.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

@mister_monster @Saki

>Use things incapable of complying with anything in the first place.

This is it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Fundamentally you guys are absolutely right. If they want to monitor us, we make it technically hard for them, e.g. by encrypting things locally (with only yourself having the secret key), instead of using a Big Tech platform and letting them encrypt things.

Maybe they’re trying to desensitize us, by proposing bad laws again and again, until eventually people give up. That’s slimy. If normal users don’t even know what’s happening, we better spread info. Not just passively disobeying, but actively telling them “No!” Maybe some politicians just really don’t understand the implications.

Also, at least in the US, we kind of won twice in the past: 1) Cryptography-related export control is generally unconstitutional. 2) PGP is legal & a user is not forced to escrow their key. We’re becoming weaker if we just keep thinking to ourselves, “Let’s just give up; they won’t change.”