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Dunking on Tankies from a leftist perspective.

A tankie is someone who defends/supports authoritarian or even totalitarian regimes who call themselves "socialist". The term originated from people supporting the 1956 invasion of Hungary by the Soviet Union. Nowadays they are just terminally online, denying genocides, and falling for totalitarian propaganda and calling such regimes "true democracies". remember to censor usernames when necessary.

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The Lemmy Developers are now personally blocking and banning users and communities critical of Tankies and the Developers. (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 9 months ago by [email protected] to c/tankiejerk

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A few years ago, the Lemmy Developers decided to keep their political views on lemmygrad while keeping lemmy.ml more neutral. Now they are banning users who are critical of their actions and bigotry.

Anti-Tankie posts may put you at risk of being banned from commenting and posting on the lemmy.ml instance.

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Muting lemmy.ml and Hexbear has improved my lemmy experience significantly

[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just saw an upvoted post on hex that I forgot to block that’s said China and NK should take over Taiwan while this whole HAMAS Israel thing is going on.

Also most of them think HAMAS and Palestine did nothing wrong by killing 300 people…they’re “fighting for their freedom”

They’re also anti Ukraine

Fuck them all

[–] jcit878 7 points 9 months ago

they are literally a death cult. they love hearing and seeing innocents die

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Seeing some of the stuff that's made it to the front from Hexbear about the Israel situation makes me wonder if people are going to run the risk of promotion of proscribed terrorist groups by hosing federated content from them.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

I started with an account on Lemmy.ml and was banned when I argued with the owner/developer, Dessalines, about the Xinjiang genocide being real. I noped out of there very quickly, and you should too. Other users have been banned for questioning the Tiananmen Square massacre.

[–] van2z 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Wait, what do they think happened at Tienanmen Square then? And do they paint the wiki article about it as "fake news"?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yes, literally. They argue it was a “mostly peaceful” student protest and a few people maybe got killed when they attacked police. They argue the scope and severity has been fabricated by the West, and that there is no evidence of a massacre.

All the usual tinfoil hat stuff you can expect from leftwing authoritarians.

[–] IMongoose 16 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Uhhh do they know that the famous tank man photo is just one photo of a series of very violent ones? They were basically power washing tank crushed corpses into gutters.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Arguments range from “tank man was peacefully moved after the photo” to “the photo was staged by the CIA.” It really is as dumb as it sounds, but insular communities have a way of amplifying and reinforcing crazy.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

They blame the students for the deaths and that it also never happened.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Oh wow really? You should link that!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I had to dig a bit because Dessalines deleted the comments, but I found a screenshot. It references the Xinjiang genocide, not the Tiananmen Square massacre. Other users in the same thread were getting banned for discussing the Tiananmen Square massacre, but my ban was based on my comments about the Xinjiang genocide.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He deleted the comments? Can you link to the thread? Surely some of the comments by the other users should still be up

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It was many months ago and my account doesn’t show any of the comments anymore. Can you tell me how to locate the thread if my comments have been deleted? The username is in the screenshot.

Surely some of the comments by the other users should still be up

Surely if he deleted my comments, he deleted all the other critical comments too. I don’t follow your logic.

Edit: I found his comment on the thread. As you can see, my comments have been deleted. Most of the other comments on that thread being critical of Lemmy.ml and Dessalines have also been removed due to “orientalism.” This is what they call “being critical of China.”

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

https://sh.itjust.works/post/32859?scrollToComments=true

Found it, some more damning stuff in there about how often the lemmy devs ban shit they disagree with

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just had several comments deleted in a thread about the CCP. They left an anti-American, obvious lie and deleted my calm, factual correction. Then they deleted my comment pointing out it was deleted. They also deleted other people's comments calmly discussing the CCP in a negative light.

FUCK Lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

You should post that!

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 9 months ago (5 children)

People: "Come to the fediverse, there are no fascists, everything is cool and free of toxicity."

The fediverse: tankies, people who simps for tankies, genocidal apologists, harassment...

[–] Eheran 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sums it up seemingly well. The only upsid is that they created a platform they can not control AFAIK. So other instances can do whatever they want.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Give them time, they will eventually self-defederate.

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[–] willis936 13 points 9 months ago

At this point I am ready to embrace full internet solitude. The grass calls.

[–] finkrat 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People have to realize where the clowns are and where they're being greenlit and encouraged, and what you can do about it. It's a good platform if you know how to deal with them. The internet will always be the internet but at least you don't have to be on the same island with these folks.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I don't think it's worth it to most people, and I'd be embarrassed for someone to find out I use Lemmy in case they checked it out.

The authoritarian propaganda is killing Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hey internet, can we just not go fash or tankie for like 5 minutes? kthxbye

[–] alokir 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Either that or they're the mouthpiece of some corpo or political party. What happened to normal online discussions?

[–] Agent641 5 points 9 months ago

Hows your day going?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

if only

[–] weeahnn 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Sucks that a lot of communities are on a tankie instance. Hope that they will move.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Raise awareness

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Can we avoid conflating Lemmy with individual instances like lemmy.ml?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

I don't think you quite understand. These are the actual developers of the software that is lemmy. They reside in lemmy.ml, but we are not talking about them just being "developers" of lemmy.ml, they are developers of the entire federation software that is lemmy.

So OP isn't conflating anything.

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[–] surewhynotlem 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Fork them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

This seems like a very good idea

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This place is a cesspool compared to Tildes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes but counter-point: the owner of Tildes literally calls himself god, and acts like it. At least we can block lemmy.ml and just not go there.

[–] capedblusader 3 points 9 months ago

When/where was this?

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