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i really didn't want to have clear cut examples of fascism grow in my country to this meme, but i guess here we are.

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[–] ougi 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Really, you can’t think of any examples of fascism growing in Canada? The giant trucker anti-vax movement? Poilievre’s fringe party and conservative attacks on trans rights, women’s rights, and people’s access to healthcare? You might just want to look a little harder, because this just looks weak

[–] Fridgeratr 14 points 1 year ago

You might want to read the text of the post a little harder 😬

[–] glimse 3 points 1 year ago

Correct me if I'm wrong but I interpreted this as "I hate that I have actual examples to show"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Really, you can’t think of any examples of fascism growing in Canada? The giant trucker anti-vax movement?

I refuse to dismiss the entirety of the trucker protests off as an "anti-vax movement" as i have shamefully in the past, while i agree their leaders were fucked, pat king w/ his superior race comments, and the MOU stating they only recognize the federal government as as the governor general and senate. not to mention that an stupid amount of money in the gofundme leaks came from foreign shores.

They were the only option (from a lack of proper leftist organization) available for Canadians who have been suffering from rising costs of food, gas, rent, utilities, who are angry, confused and, probably misinformed especially as the government was doing a rather insufficient pandemic (an ongoing one mind you) response for the people as small shops closed down, and seemingly more focused on the corporations. it was a good mix of reactionaries and legitimate people with legitimate concerns, we should learn from our mistakes and do a better job of explaining to the people on a more intimate person to person level and at doing government policies.

if you are willing to entertain a socialist view on this (they are god damn trots though), but yeah you're right in being aware it was a fair split of reactionaries, crypto-fascists, and people with genuine concerns (kind of like right now)

Poilievre’s fringe party and conservative attacks on trans rights, women’s rights, and people’s access to healthcare?

you are absolutely right that the assaults on trans rights, women rights and, the privatization of public health care is concerning, this again i imagine has most likely been a mix of reactionaries and crypto-fascists who again have sus backgrounds leading people who most likely have valid concerns that were never addressed and mislead immensely (but when you live next to the massive American media machine and their capital is magnitudes more than that of any leftist creator, it's an uphill battle all the way).

You might just want to look a little harder, because this just looks weak

i hope we both understand that poilievre is an "economic liberal/ neo liberal" and that most parties in canada a "liberal democracy" can be said to be "liberal".

i should make no illusion to the idea that poilievre is using the hunka debacle to garner more votes, my disdain extends to him as well, mind you he has been careful with his words and not use the word "nazi" because he too wants the Ukrainian diaspora votes, and the fact is, a non negligible amount of ukrainians consider the 14 waffen ss and their ilk to be heros abroad (not an annual national holiday, nation wide commemoration of the 110th birthday of the collaborator, which is jan 1) and at home

edit: when i said clear cut i hope to express that i doubt most people will know of hitlers policies towards transpeople, but the gradual progression of:

letting nazis in country < nazis accidentally honoured by country's gov < nazis honoured by msm country's news paper

is a progression most unread people will understand, a progression most people will find concerning because... i do nazi them nazi-ng it lol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We (leftists, socialist, communists) are out organized.

Pierre just wants the reigns he doesn't actually give a shit, nobody has said anything about the ss monuments or Jack, they're all equally spineless, the way I see it is PP tjust wants the position and is smearing him trying to pin it to JT.

[–] KpntAutismus 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this is basically what is happening with the AfD in germany. we let them have an audience, so they continued to spread hatred. and now they are getting voted into power, literal nazis btw.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly they aren't much worse than the Ampel, one might even argue that they are better since they want to leave NATO. Problem is they probably won't do that even if they came to power because the US would just buy them all, doubt neo Nazis have any form of ideological integrity

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

(☭ ʖ̯ ☭)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To effectively get rid of a weed, you need to pull it out with the roots

[–] charliespider 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This doesn't make any sense

[–] stevedidWHAT 2 points 1 year ago

Classic .ml post