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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The consumption room plan is supported by Scottish National Party, Labour and Liberal Democrat politicians but the UK Home Office insists "there is no safe way to take illegal drugs".

There is no ideal way. Drugs are dangerous, but people take them. I am disappointed by the resistance to legalise drugs. While drugs are illegal, they are unmonitored. I don't take drugs myself. I don't even drink anymore

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of the reasons illegal drugs are as dangerous as they are is because they are illegal. Their illicit nature means they are manufactured and distributed without any proper oversight or regulation, leading to dangerous lack of quality control.

If recreational drugs could be purchased with proper standards for purity, dosage etc they would be much safer for their users.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure but look at alcohol, the consumer knows exactly what he's purchasing. Didn't stop a person I knew from dying from this shit.

Drugs should be difficult to get to reduce the chances of recreational use.

[–] Bassman27 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Drugs are already difficult to get for the average person. I can’t just walk to my corner shop and buy some crack.

If people want something enough they will find it. All the war on drugs does is hand the money straight to criminals when I could be taxed to provide services who are struggling with addiction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can absolutely go to a corner store and buy alcohol. It's not a coincidence that it kills 3 million people per year worldwide.

Making drugs more accessible will increase consumption, that said it might reduce the negative effects for the consumers. If we allow the sell of drugs we should do everything we can to avoid the current situation with alcohol.

Make the packaging ugly, make people understand that they are consuming something that will at best reduce their life expectancy at worst kill them and generally reduce he quality of their lives.

[–] Bassman27 1 points 1 year ago

Obesity kills over 4 million people a year should we put food in ugly packages too? People are well aware of the dangers of alcohol and changing what the bottle looks like won’t deter them.

Most people have a reasonably healthy relationship with alcohol. There are already programs in place for those who abuse the substance.

Those who abuse illicit drugs need help more than alcoholics as there is fewer programs available and more social stigma around it. People culturally view alcoholism as a non issue and it is occasionally celebrated.

The war on drugs needs to end so it can benefit everyone with substance abuse. Focusing on alcohol will do little to cure the wider issue of dependency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Glasgow's Integration Joint Board, which brings together NHS and council officials, ratified the plans at an online meeting on Wednesday morning.

The idea has been discussed for years but it is able to go ahead now after Scotland's senior law officer said users would not be prosecuted for possessing illegal drugs while at the facility.

The guidance issued to prosecutors by Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain KC earlier this month stated that it would "not be in the public interest" to bring proceedings in such cases.

The Glasgow consumption room would be based at Hunter Street in the east end of the city alongside a clinic where 23 long-term drug users are currently prescribed pharmaceutical heroin.

Susanne Millar, chief officer of Glasgow's Heath and Social Care Partnership, said engagement would begin immediately, with an initial community meeting scheduled for Thursday.

The consumption room plan is supported by Scottish National Party, Labour and Liberal Democrat politicians but the UK Home Office insists "there is no safe way to take illegal drugs".


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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

UK Home Office insists “there is no safe way to take illegal drugs”.

There’s also no 100% safe way to eat a sandwich. Much more dangerous to get into a car than to smoke weed. UK Home Office can get in the fucking bin.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It'll turn out to be a huge success, where drug related deaths decrease and general drug related crimes go down, and then the UK government will shut it down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're forgetting the middle step, bringing in an outside expert to give them justification to shut it down.
Then when the expert concludes the room is fantastic, and saving lives, they'll sack them, and shut it down anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

the room is fantastic, and saving lives

That's the "problem".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sunak gave assurances in the last PMQs that he would not use powers to shut it down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sunak is unlikely to be in power for longer than it takes for the pilot to generate 'usable' statistical results.

The Conservatives can then use this scheme to attack Labour while in opposition, 'Labour is weak on drugs!' Labour then u-turns 'They can't make up their mind!' and closes the trial down, 'Sunak let this pioneering study go on and now Labour have shut it down!'

Alternative scenario: it works and Labour don't shut it down, The Sun running the headline '300% leap in crime near treatment room!' Conservatives: 'Labour is soft on crime, mollycoddling junkies while ordinary people struggle.'

If you always argue from a place of bad faith then life never disappoints you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tory media has to be a priority to be dealt with once the scum are out on their ears.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

To be frank with you they need to rein in liberal media like the fucking Guardian also, those pricks are farming outrage to finance themselves. What we need is Leveson II and a regulatory body with bite. In fact the new regulatory body need to be about 90% teeth.