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I just discovered this amazing app! It lets you remove (or just disable) preinstalled apps like Facebook, Netflix, etc. and system apps like samsung knox apps, diagnostic, bixby, and even One UI (but you must have installed other launcher). You can’t brick your device, worst case it falls into a boot loop and after 5 reboots it will factory reset.

Debloating your device will make it faster, more private and more secure (less atack surface).

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[–] Rustmilian 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I want to specify for anyone whom doesn't know.
ADB can't actually "remove"/delete system applications from the devices storage. It can only "uninstall" them from the user account; that's why you can't brick the device with this method.
So if you're looking to free up space on the device you'll have to find a different solution.

Thanks for the awesome GUI tool.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you suspect there are still benefits to doing this then?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Yes. Some of them do nothing other than serve ads and /or track information.Disabling them can help thus with better privacy and longer battery life.

[–] Rustmilian 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ofc. "Uninstalling" say the Facebook shitware that's included in Samsungs from the user account prevents them from running. The apps are still very much in the system partition, but the user account will never run it because to the account it's "uninstalled".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Storage-wise they're there, but they never run or take up memory? Is this correct?

[–] Rustmilian 3 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is awesome.

One of the best decisions Apple ever made was not letting carriers and other OEMs install bloatware on phones out of the box.

[–] UsernameIsTooLon 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The end result is a locked ecosystem though. The open source nature of Android makes this a bit harder to regulate for Google.

Also money money money

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like what? Their office apps?

I do find it annoying to delete them on new phones.

[–] Gazumi 17 points 1 year ago

The gold standard is to flash a new ROM, but a lot of people dont't want to, or cannot because either the phone won't allow (Samsung etc) or it is too daunting. Next we had ADB commands via terminal (hello hours in the terminal). UAD in isolation might seem daunting, but compared to the alternatives, it it is a heaven sent gift, and I'm not even religious.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I've always done it manually and never knew there was an app for it, that's so cool!

You can't brick your device

Still, always good to do your research before removing a package that looks unnecessary but is actually integral to your system

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Looking at the github page, the tool seems to come with certain lists telling you what is safe to delete based on what brand the phone is from or what carrier you're using.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've used this on my Samsung phone and I've seen better battery life with so much junk running in the background.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would also work, except for unsupported devices.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

True, I suppose

[–] JubilantJaguar 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is this better, or just quicker, than going thru the apps in Settings>Apps one by one and hitting ~~"Uninstall"~~ "Uninstall" or "Disable" whenever the button is available?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

Not every app is graphical. Not all can be disabled.

Using "package manager" from F-Droid you can list them and simply use adb uninstall --user 0 APP for all apps. Copy paste, appname, thats it.

Just be sure to keep the logs to reinstall when needed?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

some apps are installed by your system. you can only "disable" them through the settings but not uninstall them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And some you cant even disable

[–] JubilantJaguar 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes yes I understand that. But is this ADB trick anything other than a time-saver? As you say, they cannot be uninstalled either way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adb commands can uninstall them instead of just disabling them, thats why you should try it

[–] JubilantJaguar 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right. I've even done that in the past. Would be nice to see the evidence that uninstalling is any more useful than disabling.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As in clearing space and simply off the list? Idk what else you are expecting...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Ah that looks awesome. Definitely gonna try that out. Thanks for sharing

[–] Anonymousllama 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Always wondered how deeply these types of de-bloating systems affect the OS overall. I'd be keen to give it a go but phone stability is pretty paramount.

[–] icedterminal 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Apps that are considered "bloat" are of course installed to the system partition. Which is something you don't have access to. The link to the app is created for your user account during device setup. It's still available to the system. Without root access they're not permanently removed. Removing them from your user means they don't run. If there is an OS update that updates apps for feature or security reasons, they have the potential to come back. You must remove them again. It does actually save battery once they're removed. You can verify this by using debug tools to look at all running services. You also don't need this app to remove bloat. It just makes it easier for those who don't want to use ADB command line.

A majority of apps won't ruin your stability if removed. The only app I know I can't remove is My Verizon Services. If I do, I lose certain functionality. If you're unsure, look up what each app does.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

someone could make this a simple mobile app using shizuku so you don't even need another device.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Should be useful for phones with unlockable bootloader.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago
[–] LazaroFilm 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Can this clean up my Kindle fire tablet from 2017?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Fire Toolbox is the only one that I'm familiar with. It's less cleanup and more hiding a bunch of stuff. Adding a bootloader and disabling some of the Amazon tracking.

I don't think there's any programs that allow you to straight up nuke the Amazon firmware and side?load your own android or tablet OS.

[–] LazaroFilm 2 points 1 year ago

I see I’m using Amazon toolbox and yeah it just layers a nice launcher and hides Amazon crap. Doesn’t really sets a clean android install. I would love a nuke option for these tablets.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

If it runs Android and if you can enable usb debugging in developer settings than yes, otherwise no.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For Kindles, the Fire Toolbox will get you sorted if you're below FireOS 7.3.2.2. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-linux-tool-fire-toolbox-v32-2.3889604/