holy shit i remember voat.
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Voat was a replica of Reddit in design. One centralized server. We would have ended up in the same crappy place even if that were a success because at some point they would have wanted to monetize it also.
You have to do some reading and learn about the technology behind Lemmy and federation to understand.
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Voat did a couple of things wrong, first they Atko attempted to attract people to his site during the Pao thing, people were looking for an alternative and Atko presented his site as faster as it's written in C#, and has things to prevent powermods by having mod limits and brigading by having minimum points to comment.
What that means is that the normal people who went there to like things are turned off by the lack of content and went back to reddit, so the only one who stayed are the ones who are there to not like things(to put it lightly), and they get louder because they posted more about the things they not like, and since there is a barrier to entry, they just got more and more people who were there to not like things and pushed out all the original nice communities that were on voat, which turned the site into only a place for people to not like things.
So as long as we have people who like things and tell the people who are here to solely not like things to leave, it should be fine.
I think due to the decentralised and open source nature, it‘s much better and even if some instances die the project persists. I‘m in IT and it looks like a solid project which has me excited and thinking about how I could contribute. My feelings coming here were also hope for better and a freedom from corporations.
Voat was just another corporation out to make money off hate I guess.
The main difference is that there was basically no reason to leave Reddit for an alternative. Yes, there was speculation that something bad might happen, but everyone stayed on Reddit.
This time there are major reasons to leave, and there are plenty of content creators who are willing to use Lemmy (and have already jumped ship).
Time will tell, and if Lemmy is still this active in 3 months we'll know it has staying power, even if it's for a more niche audience. But I know I've been having more fun on Lemmy over the past week or two than I did on Reddit for the past year or so.
Voat was a centralized network. A single point of failure. Federated networks can share the load of users so they're not as reliant on ad dollars to key the service running.
God. All I can think about is how this feels like a Voat situation. I really really hope not, but I have a bad feeling. I haven't seen a ton of activity since I came in, but maybe I need to look harder.
At least I found mastodon. I feel like that could blow up.
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