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My significant other ate cucumbers and onion with some ranch. I called it a cucumber onion salad. She says there aren't enough ingredients to call it a salad, because "it takes multiple ingredients". I pointed out she had three and asked what the minimum is. She refuses to answer so I ask Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (6 children)

Heterogenous chunks served around or below room temperature are a salad. To be heterogenous, there must be at least two different things, so... two is the minimum, dressing doesn't count towards the total.

Cucumber slices with tajΓ­n? Not a salad.

Cucumber, tomato, and red onion dressed with tahini? Jerusalem salad.

Tuna mixed with mayonnaise? Not tuna salad.

Tuna mixed with celery and mayonnaise? Tuna salad (barely).

Lime jello? Not a salad.

Lime jello cut into cubes mixed with orange jello cut into cubes? Jello salad.

Cranberries stewed with spices and sugar? Not a salad, cranberry sauce.

Cranberry sauce mixed with mandarin oranges, cut pineapple, and walnuts, set into a bundt-shaped jello mold? Cranberry salad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If I heat pasta salad in the microwave, is it no longer a salad? Is a leftover portion of pasta a salad before it is reheated? I'm not sure temperature is a requirement.

Also I have to question calling two flavours of Jello "different things", let alone calling 2 flavours of gelatine a salad, but I know Americans are more liberal with the word salad than other places.

Where I am you will rarely see the word salad used in relation to dishes that don't contain some raw chopped vegetables, especially leafy green ones. Or it's the dish's imported original name, like potato salad. Fruit salad is the one exception to that, I think.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I could see an argument that past a certain temperature, you are now just eating pasta.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

I would argue that Jello cubes in whipped cream could be a basic Jello salad. That's two ingredients, but it's also arguably an instance of a one-ingredient salad, since the whipped cream dressing doesn't count.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think the temperature doesn't work as part of the definition. If you've never had it, Taco Salad is served hot (the meat at least is, and usually the tortilla bowl is as well).

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

When will the divorce be final?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Have a look at the bottle of ranch dressing, and count all the chemicals in there. Is the count of ingredients necessary for a salad now OK?

[–] latca 6 points 9 months ago

Those ingredients you listed are literally the ingredients to a dish called cucumber salad. Though usually the dressing is more of an vinegary Italian dressing instead of ranch. Just Google it.

https://www.foodandwine.com/recipes/cucumber-salad

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Cut is as a prep step and it becomes a salad.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

To bolster your point I regularly make something I call cucumber onion salad with cucumber, white onion, and oil w herbs, salt and pepper. To me, it's a salad if it focuses on seasoned raw ingredients, esp vegetables, served cold. There's also the confusion over things like chicken/tuna/egg deli salads focused on being eaten as a sandwich or w crackers, and Midwest "salads" for which all rules seem to be moot except that it's likely served cold.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

For me a salad is minimum of two uncooked ingredients.

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[–] cobysev 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To me, a salad has always been a dish consisting mostly (if not all) of leafy greens. There are times when I'll put spinach leaves or chopped iceberg lettuce in a bowl by itself and eat them plain, and I'll call it a salad.

Adding other chopped/minced/diced/sliced veggies and/or dressing just makes it more of a salad, but a base of leafy greens is, by itself, still a salad. At least, in my personal opinion.

Other foods like "fruit salad" are just borrowing the word salad to give you a baseline sense of its ingredient arrangement, but I personally don't consider them true salads.

Like how "cow pie" is another word for cow poop, but there is a brand/recipe for chocolate snacks called cow pies. It's not a real cow pie, but the name alone gives you an idea of what it might consist of (chocolate, peanuts, maybe some peanut butter, etc.).

[–] Badass_panda 5 points 9 months ago

So here's the interesting thing: salads with no leafy greens came first. The word (sallet) originally referred to salted vegetables, essentially pickles, which were eaten chopped with a binding sauce (e.g., garum). Think something reminiscent of relish, maybe.

Technically the thing with leafy greens is specifically a "garden salad", but it's been the most common type for so long (~400 years) that most folks think of it as the default.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is a centuries-old simple salad recipe involving just cucumbers, onions, vinegar, sugar, salt, pepper.

Anyone saying you can't have a salad out of cucumber, onions, and dressing...is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Or the centuries-old salad recipe is wrong?

I have no opinion on this matter. I am merely being contradictory.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I've often had spinach, some shredded cheese, and a vinaigrette and called it salad.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My girlfriend calls lettuce salad. A bowl of lettuce she calls a salad

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[–] BrownianMotion 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Two ingredients and a "dressing" is a salad.

If no dressing, then three ingredients or more.

Also, chicken caeser salad is a salad, and it has starch/bread.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Potato and Mayo = potato salad. So I would say two is the minimum. A bowl of lettuce on its own is not a salad. A salad is a classification of coke, (mainly) vegetable based dishes.

[–] SendMePhotos 3 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I mean when you put chopped iceberg lettuce and tomatoes, it's a salad... So... Two?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Last time I tossed a salad it was two ingredients, so I think you're correct.

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[–] SexyTimeSasquatch 3 points 9 months ago

A salad is at least one ingredient chopped up and tossed with some kind of dressing. This basically requires at least two ingredients. One chopped solid and one liquid dressing. Could be cucumbers and vinegar. Could be lettuce with ranch dressing. Obviously salads with more ingredients than two or three are probably gonna be better, but I think you could call cucumbers and onions chopped up and tossed with ranch a salad for sure.

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