this post was submitted on 24 Jun 2023
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Fuck Subscriptions

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Naming and shaming all "recurring spending models" where a one-time fee (or none at all) would be appropriate and logical.

Expect use of strong language.

Follow the basic rules of lemmy.world and common sense, and try to have fun if possible.

No flamewars or attacking other users, unless they're spineless corporate shills.

Note that not all subscriptions are awful. Supporting your favorite ~~camgirl~~ creator or Lemmy server on Patreon is fine. An airbag with subscription is irl Idiocracy-level dystopian bullshit.

New community rule: Shilling for cunty corporations, their subscriptions and other anti-customer practices may result in a 1-day ban. It's so you can think about what it's like when someone can randomly decide what you can and can't use, based on some arbitrary rules. Oh what, you didn't read this fine print? You should read what you're agreeing to.

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Privacy

Privacy Guides

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FreeMediaHeckYeah

Louis Rossman's YouTube channel

Look at content hosted at Big Tech without most of the nonsense:

Piped

Invidious

Nitter

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(Ok I don't know if this is actually subscription, but it's definitely the same shit.)

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[–] Dettweiler42 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd take it right back and refund the car. With how much cars cost, I expect to receive the whole car. No way would I put up with DLC bullshit like that.

[–] Billy_Gnosis 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would think the dealer would need to disclose this prior to purchase? If they didn't, then yeah, I'd drive it straight back and tell them to cancel the deal

[–] IDatedSuccubi 2 points 1 year ago

I think when you build the car in the "build your own" section of the website, they say that it's not a X$ option, but Y$ per month option

But I don't know if that's the case with dealer stock

[–] dystop 13 points 1 year ago

Remember "you wouldn't download a car"?

Well now you will.

[–] MutatedBass 12 points 1 year ago

Governments need to get a grip on subscriptions in the automotive industry. This is getting out of hand and needs regulation.

[–] grue 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This shit should be illegal. When they sell you the car, they sell you the whole car and you have the right to use your poroperty how you wish, including unlocking the full potential of the hardware regardless of DRM. Anybody who thinks otherwise is evil.

[–] Rooki 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, to crack said software in a already paid car should be legal.

[–] Rooki 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Imagine that the subscription expires during the assistant active. Chaos ensues.

[–] paulcdb 4 points 1 year ago

I have no idea if its possible since I have an ‘06 Audi but look into VCDS or VAGCOM. They are technically the same software but it allows you to enable features through the OBD2 port. If you look round the Audi forums, they often have maps showing people who have the dongle/software needed.

Since I have my own dongle/software, I only needed to replace the indicator lever (£15 on ebay) and change 2 settings in the ECU and I had cruise control working and you can change a ton of other stuff on the car.

[–] alextastic 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no microtransaction required, that's just the phrasing used. The car never had that function because they didn't buy one with that package.

[–] WhoRoger 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why is the option selectable then... At best it's just shitty UI, at worse it's a software feature that needs to just be activated. (Which is what people don't tend to like.)

[–] alextastic 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The cruise control lever comes equipped with the additional buttons that would make use of this feature, which is done to streamline production at the factory, as opposed to needing to install two different types of levers depending on the build. Some have the upgraded software to use the adaptive cruise assist installed, some don't. Your friend purchased a car that did not have that feature, so nothing is removed or missing, and therefore no microtransaction is required. That's like saying they bought a car with 19" wheels but a microtransaction is needed to get the 20" option. It was never there to begin with, it was simply a feature they did not opt for.

[–] WhoRoger 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I get it, but the normal thing that's always been done is for the lever to be missing the printing, and the movement to that position either be blocked mechanically or just ignored. At least that was smarter so the user wouldn't be bothered by something they didn't want, and it they changed their mind, it was still simple to install.

There definitely is a new trend for a product you bought to keep screaming at you to buy new shit. Does your car remind you to buy more expensive rims? Even if technologically it's almost the same as it's been done for ages, nobody is subtle about it anymore, and that indeed is similar to today's micro transaction model where everything has to have a built-in store, often as the top feature even more prominent than the main functionality.