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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yup it isn't working, but the amazing thing? I can still write this post and you can still read it even though lemmy.ml is down currently.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How does that work? Is it because you're on a different instance? I'm genuinely curious, I am still trying to use my smooth little brain to understand how this federation thing works.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes we are all on different instances that don't involve lemmy.ml. It takes time to understand and some aspects can be overwhelming, but the value becomes clear especially in situations like this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

also really cool how these comments pop up in real time

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Absolutely amazing. Not only that, in the homepage, I just click "All" and "New" and posts keep popping up in real time too, it's super responsive. Gone are the days where I had to refresh to see new posts!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

They will come back. The websocket code that powers it is being replaced with more scaleable plain HTTP code as I understand it. There are also several bugs with the auto refresh freaking out at times, resulting in old posts filling your feed.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just wanted to verify something. If an instance goes down, what happens to the communities created in that instance? Might be a stupid question, but I'm still not 100% I get how this all works.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

They're gone basically.

[–] neblem 5 points 2 years ago

All hosted & federated posts are still archived by the instances that recieved them but the community obvsiously can't accept new federated posts & comments until/if it goes live again. We should have archiver accounts/bots on important communities to not lose knowledge created on those communities, it's like adding a voice recorder to a telephone line - you keep what you record.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

At a guess they're deploying new backend code.

[–] neblem 9 points 2 years ago

Looks like they're back up now.

[–] WhiteBreadBuddha 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Was looking on the join servers page hours ago and didn't even see it listed. Beehaw was the most popular, no lemmy.ml in sight.

[–] Photographer 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

there was some consensus to remove lemmy.ml from recommended based both on its load and its politics

[–] WooChooTrain 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Huh is there some controversy with its politics? I haven’t heard of that yet!

[–] lich_hegemon 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

The admins also run lemmygrad and they are not shy about it.

Edit: this is hearsay from my part.

[–] SeeleLowe 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can you elaborate on that for those of us who have never heard of it?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

they're heavily pro-Russia and pro-China, remove comments criticizing violation of human rights by China, and use phrases like "Ukrainian invasion" and downvote people who say that hey, it's Russia who's the bully.

[–] lich_hegemon 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Lemmygrad is a radical left communist instance. That's is not a lot of people's cup of tea

Edit: while the above is true, and I've heard the link between the admins and the instance mentioned a few times in Mastodon. I have not been able to corroborate it myself.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] god 1 points 2 years ago

The good thing is since it's federated and open source, we can just make our own instances without them and block them. The bad thing is since they have the biggest instance (lemmy.ml) because, well, they made it and pioneered it, it's unlikely we'll want that or them blocked.

I think this is one of the reasons why many ppl are pushing to join Kbin instead since it's a bit more separated from the "overlords" than lemmy. I don't really know a solution yet to this problem, let's keep exploring.

[–] WhoRoger 5 points 2 years ago

More instances have been doing that. Let's wait it out

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Probably updating or something.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not on Lemmy but kbin and it's been like that here as well, and from what I understand it's due to a mass of users from reddit slowing everything down and setting off ddos protections.

[–] god 1 points 2 years ago

hey so regarding Kbin, I tried it, I got super lost. I can use Lemmy alright, very easy, but on Kbin I don't know how to browse either local or global "magazines". Do you know where these buttons are? lol.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yup. I wonder when they'll halt registrations.

[–] wason 1 points 2 years ago

Still down? I'm getting error 502. Also, subscribed to some communities yesterday and I'm still getting "Subcribe Pending".